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Newspapers influence on voting in the EU referendum of 2016

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varian Thu 13-Apr-23 18:39:18

Most of the UK national press has a right wing pro-brexit bias.

However when this fact is raised on Gransnet many posters claim to be impervious to bias - as in "the newspaper I read does not effect the way I think or the way I vote"

Really?

www.statista.com/statistics/1072148/brexit-vote-by-newspaper-preference/

NanaDana Fri 14-Apr-23 06:58:26

Breaking news.. a truly unbiased newspaper has finally been introduced, and will be delivered to your doors via a unicorn ridden by a fairy...

Foxygloves Fri 14-Apr-23 06:42:26

@Dickens There’s another clue in the title when you compare it with todays date.

volver3 Fri 14-Apr-23 06:39:49

Because by the time my grandchildren are grown they will understand the value of being an independent sovereign state that can stand up for freedom everywhere.

Nice to start the day with a bit of comedy.

FannyCornforth Fri 14-Apr-23 05:47:01

Another consideration.
Rather than controlling their ovine readership, to what degree do papers simply give the punters what they want?

In that they mirror the readers beliefs and preferences?
Is their political influence over egged?

If The Guardian suddenly came over all Tory, it wouldn’t convert all of its readers, would it?

FannyCornforth Fri 14-Apr-23 05:40:44

What an interesting website!
Thanks for the link Varian

However, I tend to agree with Foxygloves upthread

But I’m also surprised that as many as 31.53 per cent of Daily Mail readers voted Remain.
Perhaps they weren’t paying enough attention? wink

I would have been interested to see the stats for The MoS, as that organ’s editorial was far more Remain adjacent that its sister paper

Dickens Fri 14-Apr-23 01:29:22

Foxygloves

I certainly don’t think the newspapers I read affect my thinking but I dare say there are others who accept verbatim the trash peddled by the red tops

But here we go again on Brexit. {sigh}

Well political decisions, especially ones that are far-reaching, affect people's lives. Particularly if the effects of such decisions are on-going.

There's questions still, hanging over the methods used by the Leave campaign. There are ongoing discussions about the 'bonfire' of EU regulations. The government is attempting to negotiate trade deals to replace the ones we had with the EU - farmers and fishermen are watching how these progress, and wondering how they might be affected. Then there's Northern Ireland... and so on.

Therefore I can't think of a legitimate reason why Brexit should not be discussed. And if you find it tedious - well, there was a clue in the title of this thread which should serve as an indication to which way the comments might travel.

I understand there are Brexit-voters who wish we'd just "get over it" and shut up about it, but I don't understand why when some of the much-lauded benefits that we might have expected have failed to materialise. "Levelling-Up" didn't happen, we still have VAT on fuel, I won't even mention the red bus because we've been informed that it wasn't actually a promise - just an example of what we could spend the money on that was going to become available after we left, so fair enough, it was just a red-herring. And of course the pandemic coming along when it did has skewed things somewhat - so all the more reason to look at the effects of it in relation to Brexit.

GrannyRose15 Fri 14-Apr-23 00:44:11

Greta

Oreo, "the permanently pissed off "will eventually include the whole nation. Brexit isn't finished yet. Will you be proud of the legacy you'll be leaving your children, grandchildren and future generations? They will certainly want to know what on earth possessed 52% of voters to sign up to this madness.

No they won’t. Because by the time my grandchildren are grown they will understand the value of being an independent sovereign state that can stand up for freedom everywhere.

Greta Thu 13-Apr-23 23:23:57

Oreo, "the permanently pissed off "will eventually include the whole nation. Brexit isn't finished yet. Will you be proud of the legacy you'll be leaving your children, grandchildren and future generations? They will certainly want to know what on earth possessed 52% of voters to sign up to this madness.

Oreo Thu 13-Apr-23 22:10:04

I agree there VioletSky but they still do it.

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 22:08:52

Being angry takes so much energy

Oreo Thu 13-Apr-23 22:07:31

This whole subject is a merry go round VioletSky on every forum there is.
Maybe in ten years it will all go quiet.There was a vote, it didn’t go the way I or lots of other people thought was the right choice, but lots of other people thought their choice was the best, and that was over a million more than voted to stay in the EU.
For seven years after that forums have been ablaze with the ones who voted to stay in the EU gunning for those that didn’t, throwing insults at them right left and centre.
We all know this, we all see this, it’s a fact of life.As I said, the permanently pissed off.

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 22:01:25

True, we can mud sling all we want about Brexit but we are all already wallowing in the the soil and water based outcome

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 21:58:26

they’ll never get over Brexit.😉

Well neither will you, or anybody else in the UK, you just don't seem ready to admit that yet.

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 21:58:15

I don't understand why people happy to make personal and inflammatory comments complain about personal and inflammatory comments

It's like being stuck on a merry-go-round

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 21:57:31

Oreo

Just tellin’ it how it is on forums VioletSky and has been for the last 7 years.

Not surprising, as 'project fear' has proven to be 'project total disaster even much worse than predicted. Are you expecting people to just lie down and think of England, and take it on the chin and have a giggle? No way.

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 21:55:13

Oreo

Gillycats

Perhaps we could look at how not to be insulting and referring to intelligent people as being hard of thinking?? Or is that too much to ask for?

I’m with you Gillycats but it sure is too much to hope for on forums where goady posts and insults from the permanently pissed off remainers is always the order of the day.
Tbh I feel a bit sorry for them, they’ll never get over Brexit.😉

Try again, it won't work.

It is not remainers that will never get over Brexit, it is the whole country, and especially the ones that were sold the lies, and believed them because they live in parts of the country which have really suffered and are now the worst hit. I do feel very sorry for them in particular.

Can argue about stats, but those who still believe Brexit was a good thing for the country is a very small minority currently. Fact.

Oreo Thu 13-Apr-23 21:55:05

Just tellin’ it how it is on forums VioletSky and has been for the last 7 years.

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 21:51:15

Oreo please explain how that is any better?

Oreo Thu 13-Apr-23 21:50:47

Galaxy

Do you know how you spund? I voted remain but dear god.

Yup, me too.👏🏻👏🏻

Oreo Thu 13-Apr-23 21:49:23

Gillycats

Perhaps we could look at how not to be insulting and referring to intelligent people as being hard of thinking?? Or is that too much to ask for?

I’m with you Gillycats but it sure is too much to hope for on forums where goady posts and insults from the permanently pissed off remainers is always the order of the day.
Tbh I feel a bit sorry for them, they’ll never get over Brexit.😉

VioletSky Thu 13-Apr-23 21:45:40

I don't think anyone foresaw just how long we'd be arguing about Brexit

It was a very silly thing to do

I'm not mad anymore, I'm just hurt

Galaxy Thu 13-Apr-23 21:41:30

So irritated couldnt spell soundgrin

Galaxy Thu 13-Apr-23 21:41:03

Do you know how you spund? I voted remain but dear god.

Fleurpepper Thu 13-Apr-23 21:36:10

Gillycats

Well it did Fleurpepper. And it’s rude.

No it did not- your own words entirely. Very rude.

volver3 Thu 13-Apr-23 21:02:49

Gillycats

No Volver3, you’re not sorry in the least. It’s what you enjoy - trying to make others look small because they don’t have the same views as you.

No, you're right. I'm not sorry at all.

I guess I'm too polite for my own good.