Newspapers influence on voting in the EU referendum of 2016

What’s the point of raising this?

Indeed!

My comment was to varian. I totally understand her reasons for raising this, quite obvious.

So if you look at the vote by social class - do we know if the upper middle class largely read the Guardian. I would be sure about that.

Why shouldn’t this be raised
I believe the right wing press has a huge influence on the voting public

I rarely get a newspaper. I believe that that the media has a huge impact on the voting public.
I wonder if there’s any statistics on BBC /ITV/ no TV voting outcomes?

Interesting but not surprising

I'm always a bit shocked that many people don't read the policies for local MP candidates or even their parties... they picked a "team" a long time ago and stuck with them no matter how badly they play

To be fair, not many options available

I read the other day that in America you can’t own a newspaper unless you’re an American citizen. My first thought was what about Rupert Murdoch so I just googled him and he had to take out American citizenship because of it. Who owns the newspapers in the UK?

I certainly don’t think the newspapers I read affect my thinking but I dare say there are others who accept verbatim the trash peddled by the red tops

But here we go again on Brexit. {sigh}

My daughter reliably informs me that her generation couldn’t be bothered to vote as they didn’t think it had anything to do with them! She voted naturally. My girls have been taught how important your vote is.

Foxygloves

I certainly don’t think the newspapers I read affect my thinking but I dare say there are others who accept verbatim the trash peddled by the red tops

But here we go again on Brexit. {sigh}

And racism and migrants and Harry and Megan and all the other ridiculous headlines pushed out by these papers.

Foxygloves

I certainly don’t think the newspapers I read affect my thinking but I dare say there are others who accept verbatim the trash peddled by the red tops

But here we go again on Brexit. {sigh}

If that is so, Foxygloves, and you are never in any way, even to the slightest extent, influenced bu the newspapers you read, you are on of a very small minority of newspapers readers.

Why do you think that is?

Nanatoone

My daughter reliably informs me that her generation couldn’t be bothered to vote as they didn’t think it had anything to do with them! She voted naturally. My girls have been taught how important your vote is.

Perhaps you could ask your daughter for the source of her reliable information?

A Sky Data tweet suggested, in the immediate aftermath of the referendum, that c34% of 18-24 year olds who were registered to vote did so. This statistic was widely used by the media - and the Leave campaign - at the time and for some time afterwards. However, as a second - massively ignored - tweet by Sky Data explained, that figure was based on asking young people, in 2015, if they always voted.

Better research, by the LSE amongst others, showed, after weighting the study results to match the actual overall turnout of 72 per cent, that turnout was 64 per cent for 18-24 year-olds and 65 per cent for 25-39 year-olds. This was almost identical for 40-54 year-olds (66 per cent), but below the 74 per cent for the 55-64 bracket, and the 90 per cent for those over 65.

@Varian I don't think it is at all unusual to have a healthy curiosity in current affairs and politics etc, to access one's information from a variety of reputable sources , to read critically using one's intelligence and life experience to get as close to the truth as possible.
An education in politics and philosophy and a background in the news media may have helped but there is no substitute for common sense

Good topic varian, and well done on finding that stat.

This survey was completed by 7,000 people, it’s pretty meaningless. Less than a quarter of the population read newspapers. Just another article trying to ridicule pro-Brexit voters. It doesn’t wash. I wonder if we’ll get the same thing for the upcoming local elections ie ‘people didn’t know what they were voting for’, ‘they were lied to’ etc. It’s so disrespectful to not accept others views. Agree to differ and move on.

I wasn't on Gransnet years ago, but I believe there use to be sort of "sponsored online meeting" things. I believe there was one with Gisela Stuart?

Do you think we can have one that explains to the hard of thinking how representative sampling works, so we put a stop to this daft "that's not enough people" complaint?

sorry Gillycats- why should we when it is hurting us so much. This is not 'just about different views'.

People didn't know what they were voting for- as no-one knew what Brexit would be.

And people were lied to, massively.

Do you actually not believe this?

Perhaps we could look at how not to be insulting and referring to intelligent people as being hard of thinking?? Or is that too much to ask for?

Intelligent people know what representative sampling is though, and know not to trash a survey with 7,000+ respondents because it doesn't suit their preconceptions.

No Fleurpepper, I do not believe it. Yes there were some untruths but that was on both sides. It’s so disrespectful to keep panning people who voted out. Like we’re some kind of dumb-assed morons. We’re out. We’re not going back in any time soon. We were done over by the EU recently with a £2billion fine. Good riddance to them in their current form.

It’s so disrespectful to keep panning people who voted out. Like we’re some kind of dumb-assed morons.

I'm saying nothing. 🤐

There is no disrespect in stating facts. And I never used the words you use or inferred it either. FACTS are just that, facts. The lies were so numerous and so massive, and most people have now accepted this.

How much have we lost since due to Brexit?

Can you dismiss too that the campaign was so full of lies and influenced by foreign owned Press and money, including Russia- that had the Referendum been official rather then advisory, the Electoral Commission would have had to annul it. FACT.