Identifying as a different gender

There is a woman who identies as a cat, she has grown out of the kitten stage. The women who married themselves , but two of them are now seeking a divorce. For them it's normal.
VS you accuse peope of doube standards, they just don't agree with your take on things..
That teacher should not have apologised, Head was wrong. Let the students identifying as male attend a male school or accept the fact that they are in a female school, be more tolerant of where they are and why. If I was an employer I would be wary. You could lose your livliehood.

VioletSky

Cool doodledog keep your double standards

Mollygo wee I'm going to carry on bring polite so...

So "if" is the standard for hypothetical questions... I'm sure there have been plenty of ifs

Discussion or point scoring?

Up to you guys

I'm not keeping count

My reading of this is that you are ‘keeping count’ of what you see as some kind of competition between yourself (with support from glory) and the ‘gender critical’. Your contempt for other posters is clear. Your pretence at being nice and polite, is exactly that, a pretence

Well VS did post on Sunday @ 18.15 that she "........ will keep finding ways to say things that make the GC uncomfortable......"
Iam.

OK so Rosie51 posts that I have indicated that the girls might lie then Smileless2021 posts that they might be less than honest which apparently isn't lying.
Neither of which statements is what I actually said.
As usual I'm accused of misunderstanding and twisting.
These two statements are the most obvious example of misunderstanding and twisting I have ever seen
On that basis I think there is no point in discussing this further.
I will, as my intersectional friends tell me I should, disengage.
Those who do not want to understand will not.

Glorianny

Those who do not want to understand will not.
Once again, you sum up perfectly how I see your POV.
Enjoy your break.

Why is disagreement so often misconstrued as a lack of understanding? We understand Glorianny we just don't agree.

Smileless2012

Why is disagreement so often misconstrued as a lack of understanding? We understand Glorianny we just don't agree.

Given the number of posts you made about how your children/grandchildren wouldn't be permitted to behave as children in alternative schools do, and your idea that the children might be less than honest, I'm afraid you don't

Mollygo

Glorianny

Those who do not want to understand will not.
Once again, you sum up perfectly how I see your POV.
Enjoy your break.

Thank goodness for that, the concept that my POV might in some way match yours fills me with horror.

doodledog I eas answering your reply to me but you have now amended it so it no longer matters

Yes, that makes sense, and my first post was an error on my part, so my fault - sorry.

Jings, how long is this thread going to become? Is anybody reading it, apart from the few involved in the ‘discussion’?

Well you for one daddima

Probably not Daddima.
G or t, always writes comments that reflect what she does as much as the poster she aims at. I like to make her aware of that.

Daddima

Jings, how long is this thread going to become? Is anybody reading it, apart from the few involved in the ‘discussion’?

I have no idea who's reading it, but like any other thread, those who are interested will read it, and those who aren't can choose not to. There are lots of threads I never open, as I'm sure is true of most of us, so why does it matter?

I agree that a lot of it is not about the OP, but that's what happens when people insist on presenting hypothetical situations as fact, and diverting the topic into other areas. I would very much prefer a discussion to a 'discussion', so why not join in and discuss?

Doodledog

*doodledog I eas answering your reply to me but you have now amended it so it no longer matters*

Yes, that makes sense, and my first post was an error on my part, so my fault - sorry.

No worries

Good grief Glorianny don't you get tired of assigning things to posters that they've never said? Where have I said that my children and GC wouldn't be able to behave as children in alternative schools or any where else for that matter. You do make me laugh, although that's probably not your intention.

I'm not going to waste my time repeating what I posted earlier but will wait with anticipation to see how you twist and/or fabricate what I've said here.

Smileless2012

You thinking that the issue is a non binary child doesn't surprise me Glorianny because as you say that is completely irrelevant.

Had my child told me that they and their class mates had written their views/feelings/opinions about a particular matter on the class room board in the teacher's absence, so it was there when they walked into the classroom, I would have told them it was not appropriate.

There's only one way of quoting on here so
If I knew that a school I was considering sending my child too, thought that the children expressing their personal thoughts/views/opinions on the classroom board, without the teacher's prior knowledge and when they weren't in the classroom, I would think very carefully about enrolling them there.
Not to mention children being less than honest
which apparently isn't lying.
Still Smileless2021 of course I misunderstand you!

Yes you did misunderstand me Glorianny. As I keep saying, it is this particular method I don't approve of not the children expressing their thoughts, views and/or opinions.

As already pointed out to you, the conversation about lying/being less than honest was between myself and Rosie and when you responded to it yet again, you didn't respond to what we actually posted.

I suggest you read Rosie's post yesterday @ 21.35 and my response @ 21.42.

I don't understand why the teacher had to apologise. What had she done wrong? It sounds as if she was perhaps a stand in and the kids were winding her up.

She was on a short term contract kircubbin which wont be renewed.

I think the children were winding her up when they wrote their names and preferred pro nouns on the board

Smileless2012

She was on a short term contract kircubbin which wont be renewed.

I think the children were winding her up when they wrote their names and preferred pro nouns on the board

Absolutely
to your second paragraph. I wonder if they knew she was on a short term contract.
If not, how smug they must be feeling.
Same as the person who managed to get into trouble, any girls who didn’t use he or ze or whatever she had decided was her current pronoun.
Which brings us neatly back to bullying.

Hello again

Bullying was nowhere on the agenda until it was mentioned how GC feminists use bully tactics on these thrrafs

Now you have decided that anyone who is trans or non binary or cares about them... is a bully..

That's not how the real world works where employers employ people and have policies the employees sign up to, which have consequences

That's not how the real world works where decent people apologise for wrong doing and don't look for excuses to villanise children children

This is all so put of touch with reality and you guys won't let us hypothesise about the situation but you have all decided trand people, theor allies, school staff and children are bullies

I just cannot understand it, people who care about trans people are not bullies

Wow VS, that qualifies for a twist almost as good as G, the most famous twister on GN.
I haven’t said any of the things you are talking about (except for the ‘neatly back to bullying).
Your inability to understand that the treatment of girls as a result of the actions of some real or ‘would-be trans’ is just as damaging as the treatment of trans that you constantly mention doesn’t surprise me, after some of the personal information you shared.

Would you like to be more specifically personal Mollygo? Because I don't know what exactly it is you mean

Really[shock[ has anyone on this thread posted that they believe all trans people, their allies, school staff and children are bullies VS? If so please give the date and time that these posts appeared.

Where exactly have children been 'villainised'?

I don't have an issue with you hypothesising except when others are criticised for doing the same. I hypothesised that maybe the head wanted to be present for the apology in case the children didn't give a true and accurate account. You regard that as villainising which I find quite extraordinary. Children are just as capable of lying as anyone else, but that doesn't make them villains.

The subject of bullying was introduced by Glorianny when she made a blanket accusation that you were on the receiving end of female bullying.

People who care about trans are not bullies I agree and haven't seen one post from anyone on this thread that says they don't care about trans.