The weak Prime Minister

Daiane Abbott is headline news. Her twitter is interesting too

‘I wish to wholly and unreservedly withdraw my remarks and disassociate myself from them.’

Seriously?

I see Cleverly is following his predecessors and failing folk as they try to escape a wore torn country. In this case it is Sudan.

ronib

Daiane Abbott is headline news. Her twitter is interesting too

‘I wish to wholly and unreservedly withdraw my remarks and disassociate myself from them.’

Seriously?

This needs to be on the correct thread as it is detracting from this threads conversation.

Or perhaps that is your intention?

Some news suggests that employers are organising coaches to Egypt for British employees. Embassy staff have been evacuated.

Ww2 my intention is that most politicians from all parties qualify for a place on the Ship of Fools. Or are you trying to prevent me from stating the obvious?

ronib

Ww2 my intention is that most politicians from all parties qualify for a place on the Ship of Fools. Or are you trying to prevent me from stating the obvious?

Good grief no, I was just trying to be helpful as your comment would have a better response on the Dianne Abbot dedicated thread.

ronib

Some news suggests that employers are organising coaches to Egypt for British employees. Embassy staff have been evacuated.

It is a good job they can rely on their employees in some cases. They certainly can’t rely on Cleverly.

I think that Dunt’s illustration of how poorly ministers perform largely through ignorance, is highlighted very well when looking at the Foreign Office over the past few years.

Individual initiative will always trump reliance on the Uk government.

ronib

Individual initiative will always trump reliance on the Uk government.

Tell that to the Afghan British interpreters.

Exactly what real information is there on the Afghan interpreters?

ronib

Individual initiative will always trump reliance on the Uk government.

How very Conservative.

Well volver3 good luck with waiting for the Uk government to rescue you.
Personally I would rather take the initiative than hang around.
Your call of course

ronib

Well volver3 good luck with waiting for the Uk government to rescue you.
Personally I would rather take the initiative than hang around.
Your call of course

How very nasty.

Oh, same thing,

ronib

Well volver3 good luck with waiting for the Uk government to rescue you.
Personally I would rather take the initiative than hang around.
Your call of course

Do tell ronib, what is it you’re going to do exactly?

Ps your faith in the Uk government is a bit surprising but your choice

I can still remember when we had governments that thought its main purpose was keeping its citizens safe.

Ah, the good old days, eh?

Well coming from acfar sighted family background, my grandfather acted in a way he saw fit when the Nazis and Mussolini came to power. He used his initiative to protect his family to the best of his ability. Hard to understand now I suppose.

Volver 3 that is a fairy story?

Yeah, of course.

My ancestors would just have sat there and complained that nobody had sent a limo for them.

(Well not the one who was wounded in the RAF or the one who went deaf on the ack-ack guns, but all the others certainly.)

My ancestors also died in the wars

ronib you are comparing apples and pears.

People fled from their government in Germany.

Zaghari-Radcliffe had no choice- Johnson let her down.

The Afghans had no choice -Raab let them down

Now we have Brits in Sudan. One would hope tha5 Cleverly had learnt something.

It’s a war zone, chaos is the order of the day, negotiating safe access the the airport or other extraction zones is difficult and dangerous. You can be sure Cleverly has had no input other than “get it done”.
It’s up to diplomats at Khartoum who know the local leaders to make arrangements and the RAF who have plenty of capability to fly them out.

The diplomats they flew home yesterday, you mean?

Volver 3. Maybe flight home has something to do with the long standing concept of diplomatic immunity?