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Will You Pledge Allegiance?

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vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 07:34:47

Apparently we are all supposed to stand up in front of our tellys and pledge allegiance to the King saying stuff like “ May the King live forever”
Will you me doing it? Me neither, I’ll be in the garden hopefully.
What does “pledge allegiance” even mean in the 21st century? Before royalist pile in, yes I do know it has its roots a few hundred years ago, and it’s taken from a Handel anthem , but , honestly , that’s no excuse is it? We’re not in the Brownies fgs.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 02-May-23 15:41:13

As someone said - all a tad feudal.

NanaBabs1 Tue 02-May-23 15:34:08

Media stirring as usual.it was an invitation to join in, certainly not a demand.

Gundy Tue 02-May-23 15:32:53

missdeke
Let’s hope Trump does NOT win AGAIN!
If he does THAT will be historic - voting in a criminal.

As far as pledging allegiance - I pledged allegiance to this country when I became a U.S. citizen - but not to any particular person, leader, president. I love my country and I vote every election, I support what I support, sing the anthem and say the pledge at certain events, and am a respectful citizen to all and everything.

If that doesn’t smack of allegiance, I don’t know what does. If at home I would never feel that I have to stand in front of the TV every time our national anthem comes on or when the Pres. appears.
Ridiculous!
USA Gundy

janthegranx6 Tue 02-May-23 15:22:44

What a weird idea, quite big brotherish asking us to make unrealistic vows to a couple of old age pensioners partaking
in a mish mash of medieval mumbo jumbo.

TheKevin20 Tue 02-May-23 15:10:54

A hard no from me

NfkDumpling Tue 02-May-23 15:01:19

I like having a monarchy. I enjoy a bit of pageantry. And it does give a continuity which is missing from most democracies. But, I'm not that bothered. And, if, if it's raining and I were to find myself watching the coronation I would be on my own in the sitting room. Alone. (DH would be off, either napping or doing something useful). So who will know? Don't there need to be witnesses to pledges? So no, I shan't stand alone in my room, hand on heart and pledge anything.

Cumbrian123 Tue 02-May-23 14:59:05

No from me .

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 02-May-23 14:53:35

Wasn’t it the Archbishop who suggested it, not the King?

Coco51 Tue 02-May-23 14:50:16

Yiayia70

NO!!! Who does he think he is

He doesn’t have to ‘think’ who he is - he IS King!

Riggie Tue 02-May-23 14:42:05

No. I'll watch the coronation because we do pomp and ceremony well bit that will be all.

nadateturbe Tue 02-May-23 14:35:30

No, not me! 🙂

Mefromhere Tue 02-May-23 14:19:19

No I definitely will not!

polly123 Tue 02-May-23 14:19:18

Absolutely not!

HiPpyChick57 Tue 02-May-23 14:17:30

Feck no!!! What are we? Serfs?
I’ll probably be watching Netflix anyway as the drivel will be on most tv channels.

Rene72 Tue 02-May-23 14:13:34

Not just president Boris but president Blair too! He took us into a war I for one, never wanted.

twinnytwin Tue 02-May-23 14:11:29

YES

Supernan Tue 02-May-23 14:01:02

NO

Secondwind Tue 02-May-23 13:54:14

Surely it’s an ill-advised proposition at any time, let alone in times of austerity.
Are the people who suggested and signed-off this ‘opportunity’ really so tone-deaf?

missdeke Tue 02-May-23 13:44:46

I am a Royalist but that in itself is irrelevant to me watching it. This is a historic event and I will therefore be watching. I watched Trump win the presidential election but am most certainly not a fan, but yet again that was an historic event.

Mollygo Tue 02-May-23 13:41:08

sarahcyn

Saying "No, not me" is unnecessary, rather rude and even more ridiculous since nobody is going to be policing you!

But it’s such fun to stamp you feet and say “You can’t make me!”, even when nobody’s made it compulsory.

mollie11158 Tue 02-May-23 13:40:52

What about extremely wealthy celebrities, footballers etc etc etc??? Shall we all stop going to concerts, football matches or anywhere we want to watch our favourites? Why can't we ask some of these people too for handouts. Celebrities share their opinions while sitting in their luxury houses or villas (which by the way am not against as they have earned iit via their concerts etc) but your don't hear of many saying they have given to food banks etc. Just an afterthought, went past a Mcdonalds recently, car park full, drive through full, also walking along the high street and cafes full, should we all stop supporting the high street because we feel guilty about being to afford a coffee. I am a gran by the way and we only get my husbands state pension and fortunately his army pension, after Tax we get about £1400, I don't yet as only 64. We don't get any help, still have a mortgage and pay the same bills as everyone else. Luckily we can help with some treats for the grandchildren. I don't blame the Royal family for our situation and I certainly don't begrudge the £2 pa they cost us (probaby £5 this year due to the coronation).

EmilyHarburn Tue 02-May-23 13:28:05

This is an 'own goal' by Palace advisors. The Mirror poll is that 24% will and 76% won't. When we joined the EU we became Citizens not Subjects. A subject does what he is told - but a citizen has the right to be heard. We have moved on from being subjects. So the oath of allegiance should change.

The oath is out of date:

I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God.

Also what you promise will depend on your role. As King Charles is head of the armed forces they would naturally promise loyalty to the king.

For citizens things are different. Heirs and successors should not be included. And there should be something about promising to be a good citizen.

Its a great pity this very divisive oath has come up so late in the process. This will be the second coronation I have watched with friends; the first sitting on a neighbours floor, watching a small black and white TV, this time with a flag, and friends, watching a colour TV.

Long live King Charles!!!

sarahcyn Tue 02-May-23 13:25:53

Of course I will, so will my other half, both feeling slightly ridiculous of course.
The idea is meant to be inclusive - it's not a command, just a warm, polite invitation to the nation to join in.
Saying "No, not me" is unnecessary, rather rude and even more ridiculous since nobody is going to be policing you!

Philippa111 Tue 02-May-23 13:24:57

I don't think the monarchy bring stability. What they do do however is perpetuate the class system in this country. Them and us! In the past the maid had to curtsy to her employer and they could do with her as she wished. Those day are, thankfully, long gone.

Why on earth would anyone want to curtsy to or celebrate this bunch of people who are there purely by fate of birth and nothing to do with any merit. Lets not forget the abuse of Diana whilst this man was having an affair with a woman we are now supposed to call a queen. Not to mention Andrew!

If we behaved in this way we would not be seen in a good light, at all, but somehow people manage to gloss over the facts of these peoples behaviours?

And to think that the people in this country are having to pay for this pantomime when the 'royals' own billions? I'm amazed that people think this is all ok. It is not!

Lindak Tue 02-May-23 13:24:55

I would like to say yes but I am saying no.Not that I am not a royalist or do not wish our new king well but I believe that all the money that is going on this could be spent on something more worthy.