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Will You Pledge Allegiance?

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vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 07:34:47

Apparently we are all supposed to stand up in front of our tellys and pledge allegiance to the King saying stuff like “ May the King live forever”
Will you me doing it? Me neither, I’ll be in the garden hopefully.
What does “pledge allegiance” even mean in the 21st century? Before royalist pile in, yes I do know it has its roots a few hundred years ago, and it’s taken from a Handel anthem , but , honestly , that’s no excuse is it? We’re not in the Brownies fgs.

pascal30 Sun 30-Apr-23 16:45:50

absolutely NO

Grany Sun 30-Apr-23 17:06:14

This idea is not going down well

A more dignified and principled alternative to the monarchy is a parliamentary republic. It’s tried and tested and allows us to choose our own head of state. Not someone running the country, but representing us all and guarding the constitution. It’s time to #AbolishTheMonarchy

Aveline Sun 30-Apr-23 17:20:51

Putin would agree with you *Grany"

Farzanah Sun 30-Apr-23 17:27:10

No apparent enthusiasm on here for taking the oath even amongst the Monarchists it seems 😮

At least this grand occasion is giving a boost to the economy, the Chinese economy that is! Has anyone bought any decorations not made in China?

Ladyleftfieldlover Sun 30-Apr-23 18:03:13

I haven’t bought any decorations at all. I have bought a Coronation jug (Spode) which was made in England.

Jane71 Sun 30-Apr-23 18:13:51

We won't be here, but as it's optional I can't see what the fuss is about.

Yammy Sun 30-Apr-23 18:44:02

I didn't promise to obey my lovely DH of nearly 50 years and I certainly will not be pledging allegiance to anyone one who spends billions on pomp and circumstance for themselves and their former mistress in today's current economic climate.
Let those that want to do it.

HettyBetty Sun 30-Apr-23 18:49:06

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lixy Sun 30-Apr-23 18:50:53

Family lunch today - no-one was in favour of this across all four generations! So I guess that's a 'no' from us.

HettyBetty Sun 30-Apr-23 18:52:33

Oh, and I don't believe in any god so GSTK is irrelevant to me.

maddyone Sun 30-Apr-23 18:58:16

No, I won’t be standing (or sitting) and pledging my allegiance to the King. Absolutely not!
I will be preparing a coronation lunch for the family though, on the Sunday. I want my grandson to understand that this is a historic occasion. Whether we agree with the monarchy or not, it is part of history. I’d be happy if this was the last coronation though, but I doubt it will be.

absent Sun 30-Apr-23 20:04:01

"May he live forever"
That sound more like a curse than a blessing.

Smileless2012 Sun 30-Apr-23 20:52:59

First I've heard about it and doubt it's true, I mean whose going to know?

NanaDana Sun 30-Apr-23 21:20:25

It gets better... at least in terms of what a bizarre concept it is. Can you believe that it's actually being officially referred to as "the homage of the people". Homage? Positively mediaeval. What are we? Serfs? And this is an example of Charles and Co. modernising the monarchy. I think not. What a horrendous own goal.

Caramme Sun 30-Apr-23 21:23:44

Exactly my thoughts, NanaDana.

HettyBetty Sun 30-Apr-23 21:51:30

Hmm, very interesting and telling response from GNHQ.....

Chrissielou Sun 30-Apr-23 22:32:42

A very loud NO from me.

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Apr-23 23:00:12

Smileless2012

First I've heard about it and doubt it's true, I mean whose going to know?

Precisely!

Urban myth probably

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Apr-23 23:02:32

Grany

This idea is not going down well

A more dignified and principled alternative to the monarchy is a parliamentary republic. It’s tried and tested and allows us to choose our own head of state. Not someone running the country, but representing us all and guarding the constitution. It’s time to #AbolishTheMonarchy

I'm trying to think of someone who is dignified who might want the job

Um...........

silverlining48 Sun 30-Apr-23 23:17:45

Did anyone watch the spoof coronation programme ch 4 tonight?

nadateturbe Mon 01-May-23 00:09:07

Aveline

Putin would agree with you *Grany"

Doesn't mean Grany is wrong.

nadateturbe Mon 01-May-23 00:12:59

Yes, we enjoyed it. Quite funny. Loved Beatrice and Eugenie.
Frankie Boyle was more interesting though.

fatgran57 Mon 01-May-23 05:28:59

No.

Fleurpepper Mon 01-May-23 08:51:10

Greyduster

I will not. I swore an oath to the late Queen when I joined the Services, and was proud to honour that oath, but it died with her. I have to wonder how much the King is letting himself be led through the nose in all this, especially by Lambeth Palace who must be rubbing their hands with glee.

Are you sure? I had to swear an Oath of Allegiance to the Queen AND her descendants- that was very clear.

Wyllow3 Mon 01-May-23 09:06:04

I'd feel a wee bit happier if Charles was going to do what he originally said - swear to protect all faiths, full on, in the ceremony, but he's dropped that no doubt under pressure from powers that be.

I really wish it were all more simple and the money spent go to food banks.

I was originally a 100% republican but came to respect the Queen greatly, a genuine life of service, and the role of the monarchy -providing you have a decent monarch - in the balance of powers: I still hope that in matters like climate change Charles will use his convictions to the good.