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Will You Pledge Allegiance?

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vegansrock Sun 30-Apr-23 07:34:47

Apparently we are all supposed to stand up in front of our tellys and pledge allegiance to the King saying stuff like “ May the King live forever”
Will you me doing it? Me neither, I’ll be in the garden hopefully.
What does “pledge allegiance” even mean in the 21st century? Before royalist pile in, yes I do know it has its roots a few hundred years ago, and it’s taken from a Handel anthem , but , honestly , that’s no excuse is it? We’re not in the Brownies fgs.

Wyllow3 Fri 05-May-23 12:23:34

You are not alone in thinking this

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65493188

Jonathon Dimbleby writes it is not something the King himself would naturally want, to be "Revered" and "paid homage too"

Its gross.

Jaberwok Fri 05-May-23 14:02:17

Perhaps Lambeth Palace will offer an explanation? Maybe it will be quietly dropped?

Truffle1 Fri 05-May-23 16:15:28

As veterans of the British Army, my husband and I will both participate - it was the oath we took at the start of our service lives and nothing has changed except our age1!

Callistemon21 Fri 05-May-23 16:31:31

Fleurpepper

HettyBetty ''Wyllow3 I couldn't agree more. My beliefs are not going to be represented at the coronation, it appears it only applies to Christians with a small contribution from a handful of other religions.''

not Christians, just one denomination, the Church of England.

I remember so many years ago Charles saying he would not accept to be the Head of the CofE, as he wanted to be inclusive all all in the Country (-ies) - other Christian denominations and other Faiths (sadly not non religious British people who represent a huge proportion these days). I was really pleased and hopeful about that.

I think the process of separating Church from State would be a long process, FleurPepper, involving complicated legislation and an Act of Parliament.
It's not something that could have been achieved between accession and coronation even if Charles wished it.

Being Defender of Faith or Faiths surely does not mean one would not defend a person's right not to believe.

RVK1CR Tue 09-May-23 05:15:00

vegansrock

Apparently we are all supposed to stand up in front of our tellys and pledge allegiance to the King saying stuff like “ May the King live forever”
Will you me doing it? Me neither, I’ll be in the garden hopefully.
What does “pledge allegiance” even mean in the 21st century? Before royalist pile in, yes I do know it has its roots a few hundred years ago, and it’s taken from a Handel anthem , but , honestly , that’s no excuse is it? We’re not in the Brownies fgs.

No and I can't understand why anyone would pledge anything to the descendent of our famous Invader (murdered Harold) of 1066. I suppose Charlie is nice chap but royalty is so outdated and the coronation has cost millions. I hope it fades but in about 20-25 years it will all have to be done again. Wills should be the last king

Calendargirl Tue 09-May-23 06:45:11

The Pledging Of Allegiance caused a lot of controversy, but like many things, it proved a storm in a teacup.

I bet many viewers of the Coronation were hardly aware of it actually taking place on the day, there was no need for all the angst about it beforehand.

You either joined in or you didn’t, up to each individual.