Voter ID

and that Left Wing rag, The Mirror

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nurse-stopped-voting-end-long-29898279

Fleurpepper

and that Left Wing rag, The Mirror

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nurse-stopped-voting-end-long-29898279

What’s more worrying is that nurses cannot understand the information on their polling cards…

what nonsense, are you saying all nurses drive and have d driving licence?
No, you will note I said “a nurse IF driving…”
If driving one should have one’s licence on one, and even if not, I expect most people keep it on their wallet as I do.
On the other hand, if the same nurse was trying to get home from their London teaching hospital and didn’t have their Oyster card on them, oh dear - no chance of getting on the bus!
Facts are facts

Yes. I wouldn't fancy that nurse reading what drugs I should or should not be given! 😲

Foxygloves

^what nonsense, are you saying all nurses drive and have d driving licence?^
No, you will note I said “a nurse IF driving…”
If driving one should have one’s licence on one, and even if not, I expect most people keep it on their wallet as I do.
On the other hand, if the same nurse was trying to get home from their London teaching hospital and didn’t have their Oyster card on them, oh dear - no chance of getting on the bus!
Facts are facts

anecdotal did you say? Some people do live near hospitals and walk- I can assure you. I used to share a flat with many- all walked, one cycled. Yes London teaching hospital!

Blossoming

The low turnout is more of a worry to me. Why do people just not bother to vote?

It's always the same in local elections.

Then people complain about local decisions.

Fleurpepper

Nurses have turned up to vote after long shifts with their NHS photo ID, in uniform, and turned away. Young people have been turned away as their Young People's travel card where not accepted. Apparently this has happened outside Polling station, so these will not be officiall registered in figures.

Was this in your area, Fleurpepper? Did you witness this?

The Mirror reported:
Voter ID rules that saw a nurse among those turned away at polling stations must be scrapped, ministers have been told.

Media reports must always be taken with a degree of scepticism, so we are told.

The nurse will remember next time, I hope, if it's a GE.

No idea where Fleurpepper lives, but it says the nurse was in Milton Keynes. I don't think Oyster cards have reached there yet, do what is the talk about London Teaching hospitals?

Bizziebe

No idea where Fleurpepper lives, but it says the nurse was in Milton Keynes. I don't think Oyster cards have reached there yet, do what is the talk about London Teaching hospitals?

If a nurse cannot read and or understand the information on their polling card…

Bizziebe

Yes. I wouldn't fancy that nurse reading what drugs I should or should not be given! 😲

😲
Yes!

"Oh sorry, dear, I didn't read the small print for contraindications!"

Just wondering - would anyone have deliberately not produced the required I.D. for personal/publicity purposes?

I wonder if all those of you smugly saying that people should have read the information on their polling card realise that a few million UK adults cannot actually read very well, some not at all?

GrannyGravy13

Bizziebe

No idea where Fleurpepper lives, but it says the nurse was in Milton Keynes. I don't think Oyster cards have reached there yet, do what is the talk about London Teaching hospitals?

If a nurse cannot read and or understand the information on their polling card…

It would be worrying if a nurse was unable to read, especially as a degree is a requirement now and prior to that the examinations were very rigorous.

Why should nurses be assumed to be carrying their driving licences? I don't; I keep it in a safe place with my passport.

This is a solution without a problem. In person election fraud is extremely rare in the UK. Where the problem lies is with postal votes where people can be influenced or even coerced into voting a certain way. And yet there has been no suggestion that postal voting should be reformed.

No objection to ID, in fact universal ID cards or digital equivalent would solve this problem - it’s just that there has been some degree of selectiveness in what ID is acceptable. Why is old person’s bus pass acceptable ID and not a student or indeed nurses ‘ NHS employment card , both with photos, not acceptable? All seems a bit ill thought through. Why doesn’t that surprise me?

I don’t think many people (whether driving at the time or not) carry their driving licence with them. Mine rarely sees the light of day because I rarely need to actually use it.

I’m surprised how many of you are saying that there’s been a big publicity campaign about voter id. If there’s been a campaign which was properly targeted and thoroughly visible to all ages and sectors of the population them more people would have known about it. The fact that so many people didn’t know is good evidence that the publicity campaign failed to meet its objective. Not everyone watches TV need or current affairs programmes or reads newspapers.

I don’t think that I have ever read my voting card - I know where to vote and the date and times etc.

The card goes straight into the bin.

There is an awful lot of nonsense talked on this thread.

If voter IDs are law then the government should issue voter IDs .

Whenever I pick up a JL order at Waitrose, I have to show ID. It’s not issued by JL but designed for consumer protection..

This thread was not started to debate the pro’s and cons but just given the new regulation which has been widely publicised for 6 months, my musings on anybody being surprised when it was enforced.

You can lead a horse to water...

The card goes straight into the bin

I know it says on the card you have no need to take it with you to vote, but speaking as a poll clerk at elections, it is extremely helpful to the staff if you do take and show your card.

Makes it so much easier for us to find you on the register, helps deal with any queries that may arise, and just speeds up the whole process.

So, if you can, please take your card with you.

Totally agree GrannyRose
This is where the problem lies - but it's easier to solve a problem that doesn't exist!

Better look it out @grannytomany !
The police can stop a vehicle for any reason. If they ask you to stop, you should alwayspull over when it’s safe to do so. You’re breaking the law if you do not stop.
If you’re stopped, the police can ask to see your:
driving licence,insurance certificate, MOT certificate
If you do not have these documents with you, you have 7 days to take them to a police station. You’re breaking the law if you do not show the requested documents within 7 days.

NanaDana

You can lead a horse to water...

Indeed!
The fact that so many people didn’t know is good evidence that the publicity campaign failed to meet its objective
No.....
Not everyone watches TV need (news?) or current affairs programmes or reads newspapers

Really? Has anybody broken it to them that Queen Elizabeth is dead, Meghan is not coming to the Coronation and Monday's a Bank Holiday? It did even feature on social media so you'd have to be living in a cave to miss it. But of course as NanaDana said...

I have a postal vote and have had one for years: nobody came to check that I was the person who had the postal vote.
I feel the government has used a sledge hammer to crack what is a very small problem of voting fraud. And there's probably more fraud going on with postal votes but that hasn't been tackled.