Dogs shot by Met police

Luckygirl3

Baggs

Since the police were able to shoot the dogs in this instance, it would appear there is enforceable law in place already.

Unfortunately the enforcement often happens after a child has been mauled to death - I am thinking of something a bit more pro-active and preventative!

👍 I meant to indicate I understood that with my second comment.

Shame it doesn’t happen more often. Any dog without a muzzle should be shot. And I know I’m going to be slammed for this but I don’t care !

Should have shot the irresponsible owner and re-homed dogs with someone used to this breed - I’m a lifelong dog owner - dogs respond to how they have been treated BUT also can act out of character - big breeds perhaps should always be muzzled in public ??

How awful. Unfortunately the wrong people are buying these big powerful dogs . They are a status symbol for a very inadequate human being.
There is one in our local park. It’s huge and immensely powerful. The man on the end of the lead is not in control . I’m waiting for the day it pulls free and attacks another dog or. Person. I’ve told the dog warden. She has been to their house and given advice.

Bignanny2 Soz simply cannot agree - we have 3 mini sausages and a very soft mouthed cocker spaniel - I’d never muzzle them in public but I’d also ALWAYS control them in public - I’m 64 and a lifelong dog owner - not once have I, or anyone else, had an issue with my dogs in public !

Bluebelle All responsible dog owners keep their dogs in good condition, fully wormed, flea treated and vaccinated - it’s not unhygienic otherwise all of us dog owners would be very unwell most of the time - many dogs have their baskets in the kitchen - mine do ! They don’t jump up at the table, not eat from our plates - I grew u with dogs as did our children - all fit and healthy

It's not only "poor dogs in the hands of an idiot" it's also dog breeders who earn ££££££s for supplying badly designed dogs. Some of these big bully breed dogs are bred to be aggressive Other dogs are bred with squashed up faces the dogs can hardly breath through. Other dogs are bred to be large and beautiful and are unsuited to many owners who have limited facilities for keeping and exercising them .

I seem to be reading more and more about attacks by dogs. Just prior to Covid lockdown a young teacher who was running was attacked by two large dogs the owners did nothing the woman was left badly injured and had to crawl to the nearest house quite some way. The ambulance was called and she underwent operations and in hospital sometime. That afternoon police flooded our roads asking if we knew the dogs and their owners. The owners fled the scene and left the poor woman. Why are owners so irresponsible. A local person takes her dog out but becomes a bit boisterous on occasions she has a muzzle for her dog to ensure it doesn’t harm anyone.

I totally agree with Dillonsgranma powerful dogs are becoming status symbols.

Luckygirl3

Why oh why do people breed these monsters? Why do people buy them? What can they be thinking?

I went into a pub on holiday and a similar dog was at a table being held on a short lead by its young female owner. Every time anyone got up it reared forward, crashing into the table and filling the pub with its aggressive barking - waiters, people needing the loo, people trying to leave - all had to run the gauntlet of this beast. And the girl holding him was struggling to keep it in check. What is that all about?

If an adult dog shows signs of mad or agressive behaviour and cannot be trained out of this, then a responsible owner will have the animal put down.

A responsible breeder will have a pup that shows abnormal tendencies put down, and dogs are not bred as monsters.

They become agressive and dangerous because they are either not trained properly, or more usually because they are trained to be agressive - this is the fault of their owner.

Obviously, an animal that has been brutally treated may very well become agressive - this is again the fault of the owner.

It does not seem that the police involved had any option but to shoot the dogs.

Unfortunately, these days a lot of people who know nothing about dogs and how to train them are keeping dogs. Some of these dog owners learn how to look after and train their dogs, others do not and they are a problem.

The only solution to this is to change the law, so dog owners have to attend dog-training classes run by police dog handlers or others with experience in training dogs.

But a law obliging dog owners to attend classes with their dogs, must also include a proviso for removing dogs from unsuitable owners and re-homing the animals if possible, or ordering them to be put down.

I have always had large dogs & never had any problems with them! They were trained properly & controlled at all times! None of them were likely to attack anyone but we were always very careful around other people! I think the idiots who are not man/woman enough without a large dog to swagger about with are the ones who should be shot not the dogs! I do think there are very few bad dogs but far too many bad owners! Licenses & more enforcement would help! Education for the sub normal humans would not go amiss either!

Bignanny2

Shame it doesn’t happen more often. Any dog without a muzzle should be shot. And I know I’m going to be slammed for this but I don’t care !

This is just so outrageous and disgusting- and deserves being slammed, hard.

Bignanny2

Shame it doesn’t happen more often. Any dog without a muzzle should be shot. And I know I’m going to be slammed for this but I don’t care !

Really that’s an appalling thought
Muzzles are not required by law do you think the police would send armed response units out to shoot family dogs.
I regularly walk my childrens large dogs infect I am just going out to take my daughters Rottweiler out for a walk he is more likely to lick you to death than attack but he isn’t given the chance I am in control not him.
I also walk my sons Olde English Bulldog a muzzle would be cruel on him due to the nature of the breed he weighs in at around 8st but doesn’t go around attacking people he is too daft

Bignanny2

Shame it doesn’t happen more often. Any dog without a muzzle should be shot. And I know I’m going to be slammed for this but I don’t care !

There is so much I could say about this, but can't or I would be banned from here! What an utterly ridiculous comment. Do you really want to see police roaming the street with guns shooting dogs all over the place?

Bignanny2

Shame it doesn’t happen more often. Any dog without a muzzle should be shot. And I know I’m going to be slammed for this but I don’t care !

Would you include Guide dogs in that?

maddyone

According to the headline on the link, these dogs had already attacked a woman. The article doesn’t say anymore about her but I hope she’s okay.
I’ve no problem with the dogs being shot and killed. They were out of control and already attacked someone.

The police should be absolutely ashamed of themselves and charged with cruelty to animals and misconduct. The dogs were quiet until the police approached them. They were both on leads. The second dog died in agony, you could hear it yelping. The armed police who shot the dogs should have their firearms taken away. The police were more a danger to the public than the dogs were.

Bignanny2 I can only think that you’ve had some awful incident with a large, or someone very close to you. Please seek help, this is the most awful comment I’ve ever seen on here ! “Shame it doesn’t happen more often” really !! Police officers would be in the most awful position ! I’ve never read such a ridiculous and spiteful comment !!!

Bignanny2 I can only think that you’ve had some awful incident with a dog, or someone very close to you. Please seek help, this is the most awful comment I’ve ever seen on here ! “Shame it doesn’t happen more often” really !! Police officers would be in the most awful position ! I’ve never read such a ridiculous and spiteful comment !!! shock

ajswan, are you suggesting the reports these dogs had attacked a woman are false? The dogs were not under control. They were straining and pulling, the handler clearly unable to control his own behaviour, never mind that of his dogs.

It’s very sad that the fire arms officer didn’t kill the dig instantly. It was a moving target so not an ‘easy’ target. I’m giving him the respect he deserves for running towards danger. As a human being, I also credit him with feeling sorry he had to shoot again to put the poor creature out if it’s misery.

I’ve got mixed feelings having looked at the video, the dogs were clearly wagging their tails a lot when the group of police confronted the man, after a while they stopped that and looked fearful, then nervous/aggressive as time went on.
The owner was a real dick.
It left the police with a hard decision to make and they seemed to think they couldn’t safely contain the dogs, which was a shame, but had to shoot them for their own and the public safety.

Much more worried about the horrendous experience of the woman who was attacked. Why on earth do people want the huge responsibility of keeping these dangerous dogs? There should be much tighter laws to protect people from them and their awful owners.

Oreo, forgive me if I have this wrong, my memory could be better. I seem to recall you aren’t one of gransnets merry band of dog owners. Tail wagging isn’t always a sign of a happy dog. I’ve not looked at the video again, don’t want to but a high wagging tail in a big dog that’s already attacked would worry me

Need to get tougher with the stupid owners. Unfortunate for the dogs but right thing to do.

The police should be absolutely ashamed of themselves and charged with cruelty to animals and misconduct. The dogs were quiet until the police approached them.

The dogs - one or both, I've no idea - had already attacked a woman and you think it's the police who should be ashamed?

Dear God.

I wish you had not reported that Ajswan! I did not want to know.

I hope to goodness the officer was disciplined and retrained in handling his gun!