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Breaking: H & M in Car Chase

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FannyCornforth Wed 17-May-23 15:18:38

Just now

tickingbird Fri 19-May-23 18:42:22

Oh dear, have a rattled a few cages? I suppose that's the problem with having a lofty perch...😉

Coming unstuck and falling off said perch is the problem but, then again, you know that feeling grin

Starrynight49 Fri 19-May-23 18:37:48

Megan appeared not to be wearing a seat belt - heaven help us. If his mother had worn one she'd be alive today.

Louella12 Fri 19-May-23 17:31:39

Do your worst, Grans. Nothing surprises me any more

Nobody needs any permission from you, volver3

Apparently Harry has asked for footage from those involved. Backgrid, the celebrity News Agency, have responded

Backgrid said it had replied with a letter reading: 'In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do.

'Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago. We stand by our founding fathers.'

Quite good!

Scottiebear Fri 19-May-23 17:23:58

I'm always happy to agree that I'm probably a little bit wrong and everyone else is a little bit right in their views. 😄

Anniebach Fri 19-May-23 17:21:32

His extended family are the royal family so republicans will
applaud and defend him every time he sticks knives in their backs to make money.

NanaDana Fri 19-May-23 17:12:01

So Harry is fighting for his rights to personal privacy and for the media to cease their intrusion into his private life. Such a shame he doesn't see fit to extend those rights to his wider family circle, and is in fact himself making a fortune from publicising their "inside story"... or at least his version of it. Hypocrisy on steroids..

lazysuze Fri 19-May-23 17:08:38

volver3

Like the rest of you I don't know the details of this and how it happened.

But despite what many of you think, they've never said they want to disappear and to suggest that they bring this on themselves, and should just withdraw from the public eye, is just supporting bullying and possibly even violence.

Do your worst, Grans. Nothing surprises me any more.

This!👍

Anniebach Fri 19-May-23 17:06:49

The press have reported the statement from their official spokesperson, how is this intrusive or dangerous?

Vanillasky Fri 19-May-23 17:02:02

But, of course, that doesn't give the press the right to act in an intrusive or dangerous manner 👍 I agree, it is the press who are disgusting

Mollygo Fri 19-May-23 16:57:37

Good question Anniebach.

Scottiebear Fri 19-May-23 16:57:07

I think Harry must have realised when he published the book that he would instantly become top of the paparazzi most wanted list. And USA has far less regulation with them than UK. So I have limited sympathy. But, of course, that doesn't give the press the right to act in an intrusive or dangerous manner. But very mixed information at the moment. Hopefully the truth will out. Tempted to think it's somewhere in the middle.

Anniebach Fri 19-May-23 16:52:45

If nothing was said by them who spoke to their official spokesperson?

Ilovecheese Fri 19-May-23 16:48:24

JaneJudge

good post Saetana, I agree with you

So do I.

JaneJudge Fri 19-May-23 16:46:46

good post Saetana, I agree with you

Saetana Fri 19-May-23 16:43:44

The paps should not have been chasing them in the first place - they happily posed for plenty of photographs at the actual event. They left in an SUV with a security escort, as I understand it, and were pursued by a number of paparazzi, they drove around to try and shake them off but ended up having to take refuge in a police station. They were then put in a taxi in the hope of eluding the paps who were waiting outside, the taxi driver said they seemed scared and nervous. The "chase" did not last two hours, the entire incident including the police station lasted two hours - they left the event around 10pm and finally got to their friends' house after midnight. Nobody said it was a "high speed" chase - the media appear to have created that all by themselves. Given what happened to Harry's mother when being pursued by paparazzi - surely even the most rabid posters on here must understand that he would have been scared and possibly having flashbacks.

I am no particular fan of the Sussexes but something clearly happened here, as confirmed by the NY police, early reports sounded a little hysterical but nothing was actually said by Harry and Meghan personally so could we put the knives away please?

Yellowmellow Fri 19-May-23 16:41:04

Such nasty know alls on here

Yellowmellow Fri 19-May-23 16:40:30

Glorianny......NYPD interviewed so suggest you get your facts right before you comment

Mollygo Fri 19-May-23 16:37:57

I don't "defend" Meghan, I just don't demonise or spread lies about her.

I don’t either. In fact I rarely if ever post about her, so it doesn’t look as if I’m defending her by criticising others.

Anniebach Fri 19-May-23 16:35:46

I don’t want to be addressed with blasphemy but that’s life

LondonMzFitz Fri 19-May-23 16:30:47

Anniebach

Young man ?

That is what you take from my post?

He's 4 years younger than my son, he's 27 years younger than me.

Holy M of C, the nit pickers are in full flow.

Vanillasky Fri 19-May-23 16:24:23

Just for once turn off your own prejudices and stop assuming anybody who is sceptical of this non-story necessarily “hates” anybody.
Sensible words in your post Foxygloves.

I don't dislike Meghan, she is mildly amusing a lot of the time. Some do get very hot under the collar trying to defend her though.
The reference to a siren was not used to mock her. If you know your Disney it follows on from Meghan's obsession with The Little Mermaid. Maybe a bit of a childish comment on my part but no more so than Meghan's own juvenile comment comparing her royal life to The Little Mermaid and how Ariel 'lost her voice'? Anyway, I have my ticket booked for May 27th with DGDs. 🍿 🍿 🍿
Oh and the Whoopi comment wasn't malicious either.

Pippa22 Fri 19-May-23 16:24:21

Interesting that during the chase Doria appeared to be sleeping or looking at phone in a picture, Megan is grinning and Harry taking pictures. Not too scary then and no seatbelts for the “chase “ . Thought he would have learnt that from his mum that seat belts should be worn always it’s the law anyway both here and in New York. Why change from a suv with blacked out windows to a taxi without ? My guess is that this was a game to make material for a book or podcast and to make the case for paid for security by anyone but them . I am old and cynical!

Anniebach Fri 19-May-23 16:22:32

Young man ?

LondonMzFitz Fri 19-May-23 16:18:57

NanaDana

"Near catastrophic", "Multiple near collisions", "relentless pursuit", "reckless", and unfortunate and IMHO inappropriate comparisons drawn with the horrific event which killed Diana. The taxi driver who was briefly involved said he certainly wouldn't describe it as a "chase", and one of the pursuers was on a bicycle. Really? Also, according to the NYPD, the only person cautioned about dangerous driving was one of H&M's security detail in an SUV. NYPD also reported that there had been "no injuries, collisions, or arrests". Even Scobie is frantically back-pedalling (attempted damage limitation?) and referring to an "over-emotional" initial description of the event. Since 9/11, Manhattan has been literally dripping with CCTV security cameras, so it should certainly be easy to piece together what actually happened, and to see this "drama" unfold in detail. Is anyone demanding that such evidence be produced? If I'd been subjected to such a "terrifying" ordeal, I most certainly would be. Funny how it's all gone quiet in that area. As for the Mayor of New York being the only person to mention speed as a factor, I don't think that H&M's spokesman's definition of a "chase", particularly when qualified by descriptions such as "near catastrophic", "relentless pursuit", "multiple near collisions" and "reckless" was intended to convey that this was anything less than mayhem on wheels.. which it clearly wasn't. Own goal, I fear.. and one of many. They just keep smashing them into the back of their net, don't they? Strange mindset, but they clearly don't see it that way...

That actually seems to be a fair overview of events.

Except - it doesn't take into accounts emotions. H&M didn't want to be followed to a friends home which would have meant paps camped outside. They didn't want their photos taken outside of the event itself, they posed happily for and during the event but that wasn't enough for the paps. I've posted a video of them in the cab with flashing camera's in their faces. They - as simply as I can put - didn't want that.

I wasn't there. I haven't seen much footage apart from that vid I posted, but if H&M found it concerning it's not my place to say - no, you didn't. It's their emotions, their worries, their concerns. And it is literally how his Mum died (taking the drunk driver aside) - with flashing cameras in her face in her dying moments. I'm not going to be the one to say to this young man that his feelings just don't matter.

Vanillasky Fri 19-May-23 16:15:16

Unless they were possibly chased around a few blocks during that time and came back to where they started?