Strictly Cheese Sandwiches

Of course they do, they fly of the shelves. For all our real concern for those in food need, far more people have enough money to waste buying snacks at petrol stations for example - there is a reason the walk from door to till is lined with sweets and crisps - and watch the customers picking them up, plus a canned drink. Hardly anyone just buys petrol and nothing else these days. Parents greet children at the school gates with packets of savoury snacks, people walk down shopping streets window shopping and chewing. Every other shop is a coffee shop with a good selection of cakes, sandwiches and treats. Again no one, just has a cup of coffee.

PepsiCo make various soft drinks, snacks, crisps, Quaker oats.

Quaker Oats?

How did I not realise that Quaker Oats was a big American food and drink manufacturer? I thought it was just a brand of porridge oats.

Callistemon21

^PepsiCo make various soft drinks, snacks, crisps, Quaker oats^.

Quaker Oats?

How did I not realise that Quaker Oats was a big American food and drink manufacturer? I thought it was just a brand of porridge oats.

A friend's daughter went to a Quaker school.

In the introductory talk about Quakers, one of the first questions is about famous Quakers. The children were shown a packet of Quaker oats and a bar of Cadbury chocolate and asked which one they associated with Quakers.

Quaker has always been a homely sounding brand name to sell American oats.

M0nica

Of course they do, they fly of the shelves. For all our real concern for those in food need, far more people have enough money to waste buying snacks at petrol stations for example - there is a reason the walk from door to till is lined with sweets and crisps - and watch the customers picking them up, plus a canned drink. Hardly anyone just buys petrol and nothing else these days. Parents greet children at the school gates with packets of savoury snacks, people walk down shopping streets window shopping and chewing. Every other shop is a coffee shop with a good selection of cakes, sandwiches and treats. Again no one, just has a cup of coffee.

Just because so many buy this rubbish food and takeaway coffees, does not help those who genuinely can't afford to make cheese sandwiches. Just because they're in the minority doesn't mean they don't exist - people just don't see them because they don't see beyond those stuffing their faces with snacks.

PS. It's not true that no-one only has a cup of coffee in a coffee shop. If I am taken to one (I wouldn't ever go on my own), I don't have anything to eat - ever. I don't drink the fancy calorie-laden coffees either.

growstuff I think we are all aware that poor, comfortably off, and rich people live in every society and have different living patterns.

I do not frequent coffee shops and can only go on what the people at the tables outside and in the windows are doing as I walk past, and they are almost always eating as well as drinking.

It's OK. I hadn't been in one for years, but my partner loves them and drags me in with him. Just pointing out that you're exaggerating when you claim everybody eats cake with their coffee. I don't - and I've noticed there are others who don't eat anything either.

Yes, people should be aware that there are people who are are poor, comfortably off and rich. My gripe is that I have lost count of the threads I've read on GN where food poverty is being discussed, but people dismiss it with anecdotes about how everybody eats snack and rubbish food - as if it's only the poor who stuff their faces with less nutritious food (well, we all know how feckless they are, don't we?) Everybody? No! Are the people who note how many people walk along with crisps and sausage rolls the same ones who are shopping trolley snoopers?

growstuff, I thought of responding to your last post, but it is so clear that you have not bothered to read my posts throughly and quote what I actually said, rather than what you assume I probably said, that there seems no point.

growstuff

Callistemon21

PepsiCo make various soft drinks, snacks, crisps, Quaker oats.

Quaker Oats?

How did I not realise that Quaker Oats was a big American food and drink manufacturer? I thought it was just a brand of porridge oats.

A friend's daughter went to a Quaker school.

In the introductory talk about Quakers, one of the first questions is about famous Quakers. The children were shown a packet of Quaker oats and a bar of Cadbury chocolate and asked which one they associated with Quakers.

Quaker has always been a homely sounding brand name to sell American oats.

A friend's daughter went to a Quaker school

My Headmistress was a Quaker but never mentioned it, nor were assemblies based Quaker beliefs although we had to have five minutes' silence at assembly each morning. However, I think that had started before she arrived as HM.

She never mentioned porridge!!

DH prefers Scott's Porage Oats!
I have Nairns if at all.

As this thread is way off topic now, is it ok to ask another unrelated question, please? Actually, I have two.

As I said upthread, I am trying to cut down on simple carbs (for weight loss and because I am pre-diabetic), and am making up bowls of tiramisu oats to snack on (oats, chia seeds, protein powder, milk and espresso, with a yoghurt and differently flavoured protein powder topping. I know that oats have carbs, but as they are slow-release is this a healthy way forward, along with a proper meal a day (last night's was pork with rainbow chard and peas)?

The other question is that I have a three-pack of flavoured nutritional yeast (bacon, cheese and plain) and wondered if anyone has any tried and tested suggestions for using them? I have used the ordinary type on things like cheese sauces and pasta, but as I am not eating either these days, I'm not sure what to do with them. Thanks in advance if anyone can help.

I've never found in shops, the cheese snacks my brother likes. Nothing in them except grated baked cheddar cheese.

I've never liked cheddar since I was a child. However, I make cheese snacks for brother, our GC - easy cheap snacks for car trips.

I fetched brother with an army size quantity (and 2 apples, oat biscuits, coffee thermos) - all finished as I pulled into our garage from LHR.

I thought porridge oats were grown here.

Doodledog

As this thread is way off topic now, is it ok to ask another unrelated question, please? Actually, I have two.

As I said upthread, I am trying to cut down on simple carbs (for weight loss and because I am pre-diabetic), and am making up bowls of tiramisu oats to snack on (oats, chia seeds, protein powder, milk and espresso, with a yoghurt and differently flavoured protein powder topping. I know that oats have carbs, but as they are slow-release is this a healthy way forward, along with a proper meal a day (last night's was pork with rainbow chard and peas)?

The other question is that I have a three-pack of flavoured nutritional yeast (bacon, cheese and plain) and wondered if anyone has any tried and tested suggestions for using them? I have used the ordinary type on things like cheese sauces and pasta, but as I am not eating either these days, I'm not sure what to do with them. Thanks in advance if anyone can help.

Doodledog I believe oats are filling, cheap, healthy - perhaps watch quantity quite carefully? Our GC like oats stacked with yoghurt, fruit, chopped nuts, honey - I consider it a proper healthy, low fat breakfast.

Our daughters and GC love nutritional yeast on plain popcorn. I use it in veg etable soups, stews - umami when I'd rather not use miso. I don't use stock cubes (unhealthy ingredients) - so miso.

Thanks. So you use it like bouillon powder? That's a good idea.

Doodledog

Thanks. So you use it like bouillon powder? That's a good idea.

Yes. I don't use store purchased bullion - I use miso. However apart from miso, I will use yeast sprinkled in some things, for flavour.

As a family we have many allergies to chemicals, preservatives, eggs (think ADHD) - I avoid all of that with natural organic ingredients.

Doodledog

Thanks. So you use it like bouillon powder? That's a good idea.

Doodledog, My response seems daft - but as I don't use the commercial product I don't know the answer. I just measure and sprinkle.

Doodledog You can now buy pasta made from lentils in the supermarkets. They're OK for diabetics - a friend who is pre diabetic and very strict with her diet uses them. They don't taste as good as actual pasta but acceptable.

I have tried lentil pasta, I confess, that for me, it was buy once, eat, vow never to buy it again. The texture was soft and slimy.

Most of our chocolate manufacturers were Quakers, Cadbury's Fry's, Terry's, Rowntree's, as were many of our retail bankers, Barclays, Lloyds, Gurneys, also the shoe makers, Clarks.

As I said upthread, I am trying to cut down on simple carbs (for weight loss and because I am pre-diabetic), and am making up bowls of tiramisu oats to snack on (oats, chia seeds, protein powder, milk and espresso, with Wa yoghurt and differently flavoured protein powder topping. I know that oats have carbs, but as they are slow-release is this a healthy way forward, along with a proper meal a day (last night's was pork with rainbow chard and peas)?

Who knows what the science is but I'm not sure snacking is the way to go - as we all know successful dieting is about changing eating habits. If I were you I'd have the oat mixture for breakfast or lunch, not snack on it here and there.

For me, not pre-diabetic but it's in the family, I eat three low-carb meals a day, with no snacks - it's the only way I keep my weight down and, I hope, Type 2 at bay.

I've been making one bowl (about 50g of oats and the rest in proportion) and having about half for breakfast and the rest in maybe three helpings during the day, plus one low-carb meal.

I've cut out added sugar altogether (specifically in drinks, as I used to have a lot of sugary drinks), and am not eating bread, potatoes or pasta. I am on the borderline for pre-diabetes (ie only just), and don't want to tip into another health issue. I am overweight because of other ones, which I assume is responsible for the pre-diabetes - it's a vicious circle.

I may well be wrong, but my understanding was that it is better to eat little and often, to prevent sudden spikes, which is why I have adopted this way of doing things. I don't have a huge appetite anyway, so I wouldn't eat it all in one go.

Dinahmo

Doodledog You can now buy pasta made from lentils in the supermarkets. They're OK for diabetics - a friend who is pre diabetic and very strict with her diet uses them. They don't taste as good as actual pasta but acceptable.

How many carbs in a portion?

Doodledog A 50g portion of oats (with water) has 71g of carbs and 381g of calories.

Bear that in mind when you plan your meals for the day.

To give you some context, I plan to eat 50-70g of carbs a day and I get most of my carbs from fruit, veg and dairy products - without ever eating starchy carbs or sweet stuff. I don't touch oats or any cereals.

Despite what you've just been told, it is better to eat the carbs in smaller, more regular portions because eating them all in one go will go you a massive sugar spike, which you want to avoid.

My advice to you would be to buy a book called "Carb & Calorie Counter" from Diabetes UK or Amazon. If you can afford it, get a blood sugar monitor, lancets and testing strips. Test six times a day a few times a week until you see how your body reacts to food.

PS. I'd rather not eat any pasta than substitute pasta.

Oats stacked with yoghurt, fruit, chopped nuts, honey is a veritable carb fest!! Avoid like the plague (unless you happen to be a professional athlete).

Oh.

Thanks for that info. I really thought I was doing the right thing, although after 2 weeks of it I haven't lost any weight. I would have thought cutting the sugar alone would have helped, but I suppose I'm just replacing it with carbs, which amounts to the same thing 🙄. There are cabs in the protein powder too, although not many.

I've just got the Michael Mosely book, so will scrutinise that before my next grocery shop, and will remove the box of oats that is on there now. This is hard work.

Despite what you've just been told, it is better to eat the carbs in smaller, more regular portions because eating them all in one go will go you a massive sugar spike, which you want to avoid.

I was thinking more in terms of Doodlebug sticking to a diet i.e. changing eating habits and not always having snacks to hand, rather than controlling sugar highs. She's not diabetic, and that could possibly be prevented - presumably is pre-diabetic because of being overweight.

Anyway whichever way you choose, good luck!

Doodledog not bug!