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Strictly Cheese Sandwiches

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LadyHonoriaDedlock Wed 17-May-23 20:16:14

Ann Widdecombe, sometime Conservative MP, Brexit MEP and star of Strictly Come Dancing, says that if you can't afford the ingredients for a cheese sandwich, don't eat cheese sandwiches.

Sometimes, when I've been on my uppers, cheese sandwiches are what I have eaten.

Is there anywhere lower these people can go? Are we in an age of political limbo dancing?

Glorianny Tue 23-May-23 16:10:55

They can't win can they!

Primrose53 Tue 23-May-23 17:47:25

Blondiescot

Some things definitely don't keep well. Twice in the past fortnight I've bought carrots from Aldi which have gone mushy within a day or two. I've had the same happen with fruit too - strawberries in particular.

Do you store them in plastic bags or in a warm place? We buy big bags of carrots for our horse and very seldom do they go off.

Blondiescot Tue 23-May-23 17:49:49

No, I took them out of the plastic bags as soon as I unpacked the shopping and they were kept in a cool place, but still went soft and slimy. I regularly buy carrots and they usually keep really well, but for some strange reason, these didn't.

Norah Tue 23-May-23 17:51:01

Primrose53

Blondiescot

Some things definitely don't keep well. Twice in the past fortnight I've bought carrots from Aldi which have gone mushy within a day or two. I've had the same happen with fruit too - strawberries in particular.

Do you store them in plastic bags or in a warm place? We buy big bags of carrots for our horse and very seldom do they go off.

We also buy enormous bags of carrots. I cull them after delivery, cut off both ends - spots where rot sets in. None go off.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 23-May-23 17:53:28

Leaving fruit or veg in a plastic bag will hasten its decomposition, even in a fridge. Decant into paper bags! I can honestly say that no food I buy - even that delivered rather than personally selected - goes off before I can use it.

MaizieD Tue 23-May-23 18:18:48

Where do all the paper bags come from? They're not exactly common these days..

Norah Tue 23-May-23 18:23:53

MaizieD

Where do all the paper bags come from? They're not exactly common these days..

I buy eco friendly at Amazon. Need a link?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 23-May-23 18:29:54

I do the same, though most supermarkets sell paper sandwich bags these days,

Norah Tue 23-May-23 18:41:44

Germanshepherdsmum

I do the same, though most supermarkets sell paper sandwich bags these days,

Daughter4 even procured eco-friendly Irish muslin bags for her sister's Italian sugared wedding almonds. One can buy anything.

growstuff Tue 23-May-23 18:43:40

Primrose53

Blondiescot

Some things definitely don't keep well. Twice in the past fortnight I've bought carrots from Aldi which have gone mushy within a day or two. I've had the same happen with fruit too - strawberries in particular.

Do you store them in plastic bags or in a warm place? We buy big bags of carrots for our horse and very seldom do they go off.

I don't store my veg in plastic bags, nor do I keep them in a warm place. They rarely go off because I keep an eye on them and make them into soup before they go off. However, there have been times when veg doesn't last more than a few days (even the stuff I've bought from shops) and salad stuff doesn't last. Maybe it's more difficult if you live on your own.

Thanks for your tips for the poor and needy!

Casdon Tue 23-May-23 19:01:02

I use an OXO greensaver storage container in the fridge, which has a carbon filter. It’s very effective, even with cut salad leaves.

MaizieD Tue 23-May-23 19:13:17

All very useful information for people who can barely afford basic foodstuffs. 🤔

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 23-May-23 19:49:06

I think the information was for fellow posters, though useful for wider dissemination.

Oreo Tue 23-May-23 22:04:20

Norah

M0nica (for the) Price of tomato slice, a few rocket leaves, a slice of tofu - if not a sum under 30p quite close. Sandwiches, as you know only use small bits of veg. My weekly shop of tomatoes and rocket will last all week. I drain, press, slice tofu, marinate, spice, fry. Wrap slices. Freeze. A box makes 10 sandwiches.

Comments like the above make me realise what an alternative world so many people on this thread live in and how judgmental they are.

Where in the inner cities and food deprived areas of this country do you find shops selling tofu and bags of rocket at prices that any one trying to feed a family on £50 a week would even think of buying? How many of these families would even know what tofu is or where to buy it?

Well, M0nica, you quoted me, replying to a question of what we eat in sandwiches. The person asked about meatless and cost.

I said what our sandwiches that day consisted of. Quite cheap food one can find anywhere. I also said what our other usual sandwiches contain: "Chick pea salad, avocado fava salad, mushroom and pickled onions, veg and avocado, crispy tofu, hummous peanut or almond butter. Aquafaba mayo (chickpea boiling liquid). Anything really, without meat or cheese."

I stand by what I posted. Not judgmental, a factual answer to what we eat.

Everyone knows tofu, it exists, has for decades. Some may think they don't like tofu, doesn't mean it's not available and reasonable. Same with pulses, dry chick peas, rocket and tomatoes.

Ann Widdecombe made a wrong comment.

I also posted: "I suspect if we are not poor we really have no idea what goes on in the homes of poor people with children. It must be quite hard, perhaps not judging others would do us well?

We all need basic nourishing food, heated homes, clothing, transport - everyone has those needs, or it seems so to me."

*"Quibbling about cheese, bread, and sandwiches solves nothing, perhaps we need to vote for people who can put good policy in place."*

Sorry to quote this long post but, I don’t know what tofu is or
Avocado fafa or hummous peanut or almond butter.
Have never knowingly eaten a chick pea either.I hardly think people on a tight budget would know or buy those things.

Norah Tue 23-May-23 22:51:27

Oreo,

Tofu is mainstream soy protein sold in 400g boxes.

Avocado-fafa*bean*- salad. Sorry for the lack of punctuation.

hummous, Sorry, lack of punctuation, again.

peanut or almond butter. Surely you know nut butters?

I Have never knowingly eaten a chick pea either.I hardly think people on a tight budget would know or buy those things.

You of course, may believe what you wish.

However chickpeas/ garbanzos (other name) are in hummous. I'd guess most people eat that delicious quite popular healthy snack.

Norah Tue 23-May-23 22:53:44

Oreo

Sorry: Favabeans - you know favabeans?

Oreo Tue 23-May-23 22:55:40

Do they?
Thanks for explaining foodstuffs but really think you have no idea what most people eat who are on budgets ( or off them)😂

Norah Tue 23-May-23 23:01:59

Oreo

Do they?
Thanks for explaining foodstuffs but really think you have no idea what most people eat who are on budgets ( or off them)😂

I merely know what people on a strict vegan budget eat. That's all.

M0nica Wed 24-May-23 08:46:34

None of the items you mention, Norah, are being sold in our village Co-op, nor to the best of my knowledge in the Co-op in my local town.

The Co-op in the town is a town centre Co-op. The other town centre supermarket is Waitrose and there is a Tesco right on the outskirts of the town, which can only be accessed by car or bus. The clientele at the Co-op are mainly the old and poor living in the numerous alms houses and housing association properties in and around the town centre. I go to it as the post office is there, and I shop for a friend and Waitrose does not stock te read she likes but the Co-op does.

As you say, I merely know what people on a strict vegan budget eat. and, with due respect, the vast majority of the population have different eating patterns to you, not better, not worse, but different.

Riverwalk Wed 24-May-23 09:43:03

I'm strict about keeping my total average food budget to less than £3 a day. I've been lucky in having free food available, but if anybody seriously has any ideas for cheap, low carb meals, I'd love them to share.

growstuff I make a really tasty very low carb moussaka:

Make the usual lamb/beef sauce using 500g meat, tinned tomatoes, onions, garlic, relevant dried herbs & seasoning. Whilst that's simmering slice two medium aubergines and drizzle well with olive oil and put in high oven until softened and golden brown. Layer the aubergines and sauce and top with a mixture of 500g full fat yoghurt, 2 beaten eggs, big handful of full fat mature cheddar and tablespoon of parmesan and sprinkling of nutmeg, then bake/grill until topping bubbling and golden.

Even with the cooking time it's very economical as it yields 4/5 good portions - I eat one and freeze the others. It reheats easily in the microwave.

It's important to use full fat yoghurt and cheese to prevent the topping separating. If you haven't got aubergines you can use courgettes.

growstuff Wed 24-May-23 09:48:45

Riverwalk I already make something similar, but it costs a lot more than 30p!

It's a perfect example of something I eat, ie without refined carbs, but with meat and dairy.

Riverwalk Wed 24-May-23 10:00:51

You can't make anything for 30p!

growstuff Wed 24-May-23 10:03:52

Riverwalk

You can't make anything for 30p!

Yes, you can!

A pre-cost of living crisis cheese sandwich, for a start.

Riverwalk Wed 24-May-23 10:06:38

Well I don't eat sandwiches so I'm not gonna even try!

M0nica Wed 24-May-23 10:47:47

To make sandwiches you need to buy a whole loaf, probably 4 oz of cheese, plus a pot of spread/butter.

From that you may well be able to make a 30p sandwich. I do not know I have never tried, but supermarkets do not sell 30p sandwich kits, only whole loafs, lumps of cheese and tubs of spread.