The Johnsons baby announcement

When he was MP for Henley he looked at renting a house from a relative of ours, and when she rather cheekily ask him how many children he had, and replied that he didn’t know!

Boris Johnson can afford a large family - not without taking out big loans he can't. I am sure he can find someone to set one up for him in return for a cushy job.

merlotgran

Fleurpepper

Why is this news on BBC News? Doh!

Why not? It’s news, not an episode of The Simpsons .

Bluebelle in fairness his other children are now adults; we don't know how he was with them - he may well have not paid them much attention, or he may have been a wonderful father. He wasn't in the public eye so much, and he never discusses his family.

I hope Dylan’s wet nose won’t be put out of joint. 🐶

MrsNemo

merlotgran

Fleurpepper

Why is this news on BBC News? Doh!

Why not? It’s news, not an episode of The Simpsons .

Bluebelle in fairness his other children are now adults; we don't know how he was with them - he may well have not paid them much attention, or he may have been a wonderful father. He wasn't in the public eye so much, and he never discusses his family.

Utterly selfish b——-d was I believe the terminology used by one of his daughters.

Is this news? Why do the media give it such prominence? 2hybus 8tvan issue on GN?

BlueBelle

Mrsmemo unfortunately he doesn’t seem to have paid much attention to the rest of his previous babies (children) any man
(I was close to writing another word but don’t want to get deleted) can make a baby

Just wondering how you know that. Were you regularly in their home to check if he was reading the bedtime stories or making sure they were brushing their teeth?
I’ve seen a couple of pictures in the news over the last year or two and he looks like quite a hands on parent.
Anyway, a new baby is always good news, so congrats to them all.

The Mumsnet mums might need to be drunk to sleep with him, but say what you like, various other ladies seem to have had no qualms about doing so.

He must be quite a fecund chap.

Petronella Wyatt could attest to that too, one of the three women with whom he had an affair with while married to Marina Wheeler, the mother of his four eldest children.

Boris promised Petronella that he would leave his wife and marry her (according to Petronella’s mother).
Instead he paid for her to have an abortion.

Another of his mistresses, while married to Marina, was Helen McEntyre who had a daughter with him.

Another child has been mentioned in court records.

Boris and Marina finally split due to his affair with Carrie Symonds.
Marina was being treated for cervical cancer at the time.

It’s fair to say that his eldest children are not close to their father

It is also fair to say that pretending Johnson has behaved in the past like a good father is actually really damaging for women and children.

MrsNemo and Maddyone no I wasn’t with them in his house thankfully but I have read accounts by his previous children (now adults) they seemed to have no time for him I m pretty sure I read that one has cut him out completely and at least one of his (outside wedlock children) he doesn’t even acknowledge ….how hurtful
You really can’t defend the indefensible well obviously you can try

I think Carrie is probably the only one who could encourage him to be a hands on father.. He seems quite content with her...I hope she is happy, she always looks so pleasant

Luckygirl3

*Boris Johnson can afford a large family* - not without taking out big loans he can't. I am sure he can find someone to set one up for him in return for a cushy job.

HOw did he pay for their new mansion over 3 mio in cash- I'd ask???

FannyCornforth

Petronella Wyatt could attest to that too, one of the three women with whom he had an affair with while married to Marina Wheeler, the mother of his four eldest children.

Boris promised Petronella that he would leave his wife and marry her (according to Petronella’s mother).
Instead he paid for her to have an abortion.

Another of his mistresses, while married to Marina, was Helen McEntyre who had a daughter with him.

Another child has been mentioned in court records.

Boris and Marina finally split due to his affair with Carrie Symonds.
Marina was being treated for cervical cancer at the time.

It’s fair to say that his eldest children are not close to their father

Oooh, what a very very very nice man (NOT )

From the Mirror no least

Exclusive: Boris Johnson paid £3.8m cash for nine-bed mansion – after 'complaints about £160k salary'

The former Prime Minister is said to have complained about his £164,080 salary while in power – but has managed to find a way to splash £3.8m in cash on a grand new manor house for Carrie and the family

Tell me how?

Bluebelle I wasn't in his house to observe his parenting - that's why I said he may have been inattentive - or a wonderful father. I wasn't defending BJ l - how could I? I don't know him and, like most other posters here, information comes from the media - and we all know how honest, accurate and decent reporting is.

I believe he has made millions from speaking tours since leaving office - or so I have read!

BlueBelle

MrsNemo and Maddyone no I wasn’t with them in his house thankfully but I have read accounts by his previous children (now adults) they seemed to have no time for him I m pretty sure I read that one has cut him out completely and at least one of his (outside wedlock children) he doesn’t even acknowledge ….how hurtful
You really can’t defend the indefensible well obviously you can try

No, you misunderstood, I’m not defending him, L just wondered how anyone knew what he like as a father to his other children. However if his now adult children are avoiding him, that does speak for itself.
I hope that he will be a good father to his three children with Carrie. I would hope that for any child. He’s not a young man any longer so we can but hope that he’s settled down and will be faithful and a good father this time around.
I will say that huge numbers of people get divorced and huge numbers divorce because the husband has had an affair. I’m not in any way defending that as I’ve been married to the same man for nearly fifty years, but I have friends and family where there have been divorces and infidelity. For this reason I think everyone has the right to move forward with their life and remarry or whatever. The idea of moving forward is often promoted on Gransnet and I simply think that BJ’s politics aside, he has the right to move on with his personal life and Carrie has the right, with her husband’s agreement, to have a family of her own, as she is a young woman and that is perfectly natural.
Divorce is painful. We’ve experienced it in our own family. But everyone needs to move on from it and heal.

Yes but I think its harmful to women and children to pretend that the risks of marrying Johnson and having children with him arent very high.
The romantic idea of 'I am the one to change him' is not a good message for our daughters, what the message actually tends to be is, he just gets too old to mess around.

I wonder if he has finally matured enough to be a decent father

Lol

That was a daft thought, silly me

That makes 7 or 8 kids, I think. Any advance on that?

I know someone who whilst married has several affairs and was a crap father.

They then met the one and became totally besotted father and faithful husband.

Many many years down the line they are one of the happiest and devoted couples we know.

GrannyGravy13

I know someone who whilst married has several affairs and was a crap father.

They then met the one and became totally besotted father and faithful husband.

Many many years down the line they are one of the happiest and devoted couples we know.

It happens!

At least someone loves him 😀

FannyCornforth

Petronella Wyatt could attest to that too, one of the three women with whom he had an affair with while married to Marina Wheeler, the mother of his four eldest children.

Boris promised Petronella that he would leave his wife and marry her (according to Petronella’s mother).
Instead he paid for her to have an abortion.

Another of his mistresses, while married to Marina, was Helen McEntyre who had a daughter with him.

Another child has been mentioned in court records.

Boris and Marina finally split due to his affair with Carrie Symonds.
Marina was being treated for cervical cancer at the time.

It’s fair to say that his eldest children are not close to their father

You missed out Jennifer Arcuri, who got £100,000 of public money from Johnson.
But of course she only gave him computer lessons to increase his confidence!!

Grantanow

That makes 7 or 8 kids, I think. Any advance on that?

It’s 9 (at least).
I and others said that early doors yesterday