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Is there still a Conservative Party?

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MayBee70 Fri 02-Jun-23 19:40:56

I’m moderate left wing and left the party because I was never left wing enough for my local branch. So I’m happy, having rejoined the party, to support Keir. Especially as, when I was campaigning to remain in the EU I there didn’t seem to be many from the far left supporting us. We live in strange times, politically and the electorate obviously didn’t want a socialist government. If Labour and Keir turn out to be as awful as some people on here seem to think they’re going to be then I’ll hold up my hands and say I was wrong but I’m prepared to give him a go.

Casdon Fri 02-Jun-23 17:13:56

Glorianny

Ilovecheese

Now that Labour are the new Conservative party, and the original Conservative party are moving further right, diehard Conservative voters will still call Starmer's party left wing, so Starmer will move even further to the right to placate them. it is just so incredibly depressing for moderate left wingers to witness.

Well just think how us left wingers feel!!!!

Ready to start your own party I hope Glorianny, thereby leaving the more moderate left wing majority in peace to assume government,

Glorianny Fri 02-Jun-23 17:09:52

Ilovecheese

Now that Labour are the new Conservative party, and the original Conservative party are moving further right, diehard Conservative voters will still call Starmer's party left wing, so Starmer will move even further to the right to placate them. it is just so incredibly depressing for moderate left wingers to witness.

Well just think how us left wingers feel!!!!

Ilovecheese Fri 02-Jun-23 16:52:56

Now that Labour are the new Conservative party, and the original Conservative party are moving further right, diehard Conservative voters will still call Starmer's party left wing, so Starmer will move even further to the right to placate them. it is just so incredibly depressing for moderate left wingers to witness.

MayBee70 Fri 02-Jun-23 16:30:58

And yet, while some people keep saying that there is no difference between the Labour Party and the Conservative Party the Conservative Party will just continue to govern the country in the shambolic was that they’re doing now. There’s nothing wrong with Labour being Conservative with a small c because the actual Conservative Party are anything but conservative and are turning this country into a place I no longer recognise.

paddyann54 Fri 02-Jun-23 15:51:06

they became the SELFSERVATIVES ,only interested in themselves and their like .If you dont have millions they'll chuck some your way IF you have the right background or information on the crooks liars etc amongst them
Been this way for a long time,Teresa May "lost" a long list ofTory sex offenders/predators and paedophiles....all so she had something to keep them to heel.

Sadly the mainly English who vote for them cant see the truth ..its rotten to the core !!

Glorianny Fri 02-Jun-23 15:25:50

Grany

The Labour Party are Conservative now further to the right. The Conservative Party has gone rogue to the right and the lies, not held to account. The Labour Party now with Statmer tell many lies too. Two parties both want the same there for the rich and establishment. Really need an effective elected Head of State. Written constitution fully elected upper house. Started with Thatcher got worse from then on. Rot started with Labour with Blair " New Labour" he and Mandelson still influencing KS and his crew mostly friends of Israel

Oh Grany that is so true. What is there left for us? I notice no one has come on to say the Conservative party is fine.

Grany Fri 02-Jun-23 15:09:29

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Glorianny Fri 02-Jun-23 12:41:13

Chris Patten on QT said there isn't one any more. Is he correct? He said "I was the chairman of the conservative party when there was one"