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Prince Harry v The Mirror in phone hacking case

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lemsip Sun 04-Jun-23 08:17:31

When Prince Harry gives evidence in the Mirror phone-hacking trial on Tuesday, he will become the first senior royal to be cross-examined in court since the 19th century. Based on what happened earlier in the trial, it is unlikely the prince will enjoy the experience.

Jaberwok Tue 13-Jun-23 14:05:59

It does seem deeply unkind, he did bring Meghan up and she did seem fond of him, he can't be be that bad! Very sad for the poor man and those children. Mind you they are a Prince and a Princess so I guess he's now just not grand enough.

maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 14:19:23

It was just rank bad manners.

Forsythia Tue 13-Jun-23 14:21:53

If Harry had met Thomas Markle and the family he might well have thought twice about marrying Meghan and she couldn’t have allowed that. They might also have told him all about her upbringing and the fact that Thomas was her main carer.. He doted on her, spoilt her and the results we see today are of a selfish spoilt woman who thinks she must always be number one. In that regard, she and Harry are very alike.

Anniebach Tue 13-Jun-23 14:29:21

They deserve each other and probably saving two other people from much hurt

Jaberwok Tue 13-Jun-23 14:53:27

Annie, I hadn't thought of it like that, but you are almost certainly right. One things for sure, neither family deserves them!

Joseann Tue 13-Jun-23 15:07:20

Not quite the same, but from the day I was born my father separated himself from us and chose to work and live in America. 22 years later my husband wrote to him to ask for my hand in marriage, and we invited him to our wedding. Why? Possibly a sense of propriety was involved, possibly sorrow over years of lost love, BUT mainly because he was my father.
After the event, nothing changed, we became no closer and he died 2 years later. I do not for one second regret that he was there, and I think my mum was silently pleased too. That's why I find Meghan and Harry's behaviour difficult to understand, and now they have children, even more so. Second chances don't always happen unless you make them.

Jaberwok Tue 13-Jun-23 15:54:29

Roseanne, yours is a sad story, but you absolutely did the right thing, you reached out to your father. What he chose to do was for him to decide, but you will always feel glad that you gave him that opportunity. Mine is a different tale. Although my mother married again and we were happy, my father was always a very slight shadow by my side. My mother hardly ever spoke of him,so growing up I knew very little about him and spent quite a bit of my time speculating how he died,over Holland, but where exactly, how old was he,who were his parents,where did they come from and on it went. I felt that I just had to run him to earth. So after my mother and much loved stepfather died, and with the advent of the internet I started searching, got in touch with a Dutch archivist who helped enormously, and finally after about 2 years found myself and my hubby standing by this headstone that was him. We also visited the crash site and put up a plaque. I felt as if I'd come a full circle, and that after all those years of wondering and searching there he finally was. We had been ok, he was ok, all was ok, chapter closed. Like you I can't begin to understand H &M's attitude.

Joseann Tue 13-Jun-23 16:16:31

A lot of families have a moving story to tell about estrangement and reconciliation. I'm glad you found peace too Jaberwok.
My guess is, like someone said earlier, that Meghan was maybe embarrassed about her family and thought it might spoil her chances with Harry. But that doesn't make sense, because her first question before she even dated Harry was, "Is he kind?" In which case, assuming she found him so, why wasn't he kind enough to persevere with the Thomas situation and not shout at him down the phone?

Jaberwok Tue 13-Jun-23 16:54:40

Joseann. Thank you for kind words. I noticed that I spelt your name totally incorrectly, apologies! I simply didn't check before posting and my iPlayer tends to put what it perceives to be the correct word!! I think perhaps Meghan was playing to the camera when she said she asked if Harry was kind! Just an act to make her sound a bit fragile. We'll never know of course, but for Thomas and Charles it's very sad.

maddyone Tue 13-Jun-23 17:04:38

Thomas Markle and King Charles are as different as chalk and cheese, but the pain they will have both felt will be just as hard to bear. Prince or pauper, the pain feels the same.

Granniesunite Tue 13-Jun-23 22:07:18

But how brave of him to become involved I think.

His media profile is all over the place.He is loved, he’s made a fool of, he’s hated in certain quarters and yet, he’s put his neck on the line again. Put himself up for a fall…again. And as the op says not an experience to be enjoyed.

The fullnes of time and the verdict might shed some light on
his reason.

Anniebach Tue 13-Jun-23 22:40:47

He is making money

Aveline Wed 14-Jun-23 06:56:19

Yes. Cashing on on his life and 'miserable' times. It's all he's got.

Joseann Wed 14-Jun-23 07:39:13

Aveline

Yes. Cashing on on his life and 'miserable' times. It's all he's got.

And that's fine Aveline providing he doesn't do this at the expense of others like his father, step mum, brother, sister in law, nieces, nephews, even old flames, old teachers, old army colleagues etc.
Even his fans on here must agree that it isn't healthy to hurt others for your own benefit.

Jaberwok Wed 14-Jun-23 09:16:57

Don't forget his dead mother, she's proved to be a great source for raising cash. But it's true, the only way he has to raise the sort of money to furnish his millionaire life style is by cashing in on his so called miserable privileged life and those people who loved him especially the late Queen. The more salacious mistruths the better. All that expensive education fitted Harry for nothing in civilian life. He's deeply unpleasant.

Aveline Wed 14-Jun-23 11:15:34

I entirely agree Joseanne. His behaviour towards his family has been reprehensible. William must be so angry at him but remains dignified and silent on the matter

Gossamerbeynon1945 Wed 14-Jun-23 12:39:32

I agree with everything you have said maddyone

maddyone Thu 15-Jun-23 12:16:53

Thanks Gossamer
I see today that US officials have blocked the release of Harry’s visa files.
One rule for the rich……

Anniebach Thu 15-Jun-23 12:24:49

Can we assumed he lied else they wouldn’t have a problem releasing them ?

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 15-Jun-23 12:28:57

Makes you wonder doesn’t it?

Callistemon21 Thu 15-Jun-23 14:29:27

If they release them, they may feel obliged to deport him.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 15-Jun-23 14:32:23

We don’t want him back!!!

MayBee70 Thu 15-Jun-23 22:17:16

I’m currently watching the BBC2 programme about phone hacking. I did miss some of it (nodded off earlier) but some of the people interviewed said they needed someone with enough money to take the newspapers to court and risk losing a lot of money. Sounds like Harry is that person.

Sparklefizz Fri 16-Jun-23 09:43:25

Anniebach

Can we assumed he lied else they wouldn’t have a problem releasing them ?

That was my first thought.

Glorianny Fri 16-Jun-23 09:45:11

That programme was shocking. I didn't realise exactly how it works, Steve Coogan explained it exactly. The newspaper offers you an amount and you refuse it, they will then up the amount, and continue to do this until they reach an amount that you agree on, Because if you go to court and you are granted less than this amount you will have to pay the newspapers legal costs as well as your own. It isn't justice, it is bargaining and gambling.
Well done Harry, Elton and Baroness Lawrence, for challenging this disgusting system.