Boris Johnson has resigned with immediate effect !

Senior glories are apparently very alarmed and critical at the suggestion that Johnson hopes to stage a comeback.

Quite honestly I don’t think that he has the support, and he knows it, which is why signed rather than face his Tory peers and constituency members.

Johnson is done for.

Eventually he will lie down and go on to make squillions of money to spaff up the wall on dreadful wallpaper etc.

Interesting point Oreo - if they carry on without an election, would more damage be done to the Conservatives if they hang on, as opposed to trying sort themslevesout in opposition?

OTOH if that meant the rise of Boris I'd rather Sunak have more time.....not a good outlook either way, as if current conflict goes on they cannot govern with strength, there will be crisis after crisis.

Sorry correction - "trying to sort themselves out in opposition"

I love the 'senior glories', Wwmk2

Now I really must go and do some gardening...

MaizieD

I love the 'senior glories', Wwmk2

Now I really must go and do some gardening...

😄😄 it’s too hot at the moment to garden.

Whitewavemark2

MaizieD

P.S I am hoping beyond hope that, once in power, Labour will stop all this 'difficult choices' and 'hard decisions' nonsense and just go ahead and spend.

I am hoping that their current stance is just to avert the accusations of economic irresponsibility which dog them in the run up to general elections.

Me too. Time will tell I suppose. Can’t say I feel very comfortable about it all at the moment.

The next government will have first find out where they stand financially so there may be a delay.

It was interesting listening to somebody talking about Biden the other day. They said the reason he has gone straight into spending was because he looked back at the last two times his party had been in power, and discovered that they got the country back on its feet economically and had then been voted out, having done the bit people dont like. The "good" economy was then spent by the opposition.

I wondered if this is what's happened to labour in the past?

I’m waiting for Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer and Ed Davey to all be arrested together for drunk and disorderly behaviour outside HoP, singing the abridged version of ‘My Old Man’s A Dustman’ (oblique Boris reference). Until then, nothing will surprise me.

Oh well Nicola Sturgeon has just been arrested…..

They said the reason he has gone straight into spending was because he looked back at the last two times his party had been in power, and discovered that they got the country back on its feet economically and had then been voted out, having done the bit people don't like. The "good" economy was then spent by the opposition.

What was the bit that the country didn't like? Was there a bit of preliminary austerity to make matters worse before they started spending? The one thing that austerity doesn't do is improve the economy...

The next government should go straight into spending because that's the only way the economy is going to get back on its feet. Not spending will just prolong the pain. More austerity is completely pointless. It should stop the BoE raising interest rates, too. That's just been making matters worse over the past year.

Boris Johnson is an Eaton-educated Trump. Neither of them fit to be leaders of great nations.

MaizieD

Oreo

I think Boris is waiting for the CP to be wiped out at the next election by which time he will be in place for a comeback.

Do you think that 'the country' will want him back? Why would they when he's been so appalling?

Do you think he'd even get re-elected in a different constituency?

If the CP got wiped put, what would there be left for him to lead? A minority party with no power in parliament?

Well, that’s another matter innit?😄He thinks the country wants him back but it’s doubtful.
He could get re-elected in a safe seat I guess.
He would enjoy being shadow leader I bet, much easier than being in the top job and having to deliver.

I don’t automatically see an Eton education as a bar to being a good person and a good politician, but Boris doesn’t seem to be either.

He would enjoy being shadow leader I bet

You know what, Oreo? I think I absolutely agree with you.

Of course, he wouldn't get the reverence and the lovely accommodation and security etc. that goes with being top dog, but think of the jolly fun he could have at PMQs and no need to back it up with any action.

Wouldn’t it be nice, though, to have a grown up as PM and a grown up leading the opposition. It’s ok when parliament is like a pantomime when things are going well but we really need to get back to more sensible stuff. It won’t be any good for the country having an opposition that resembles Fred Karno’s circus.

I think Johnson’s done. The results of the Scrutiny Committes report are going to expose him publicly, and I can’t see the way back politically for him after that. He will become a very rich speaker and political commentator, s..t stirring being his specialty.

Oreo, I did not say or imply that an Eton education made you a bad person.

You might not understand that BJ won a scholarship to go to Eton …. so not having been there, I can’t guess what difference that makes to an individual’s experience there. Probably had to work very hard to retain the reduced fees?

ronib the Kings Scholarship is means tested, Johnson likely applied for the prestige rather than the financial award. He was at a prep school beforehand.
www.etoncollege.com/admissions/scholarships-and-awards/kings-scholarships/
Kwasi Kwarteng was an also a Kings scholar.

So was Lord Frederick Windsor.

However you got there, Eton is a stepping stone: when he went to Oxford he was out to be amongst the "old boys" oh what fun Bullingdon club.
Wiki
"The Bullingdon Club is a private all-male dining club for Oxford University students. It is known for its wealthy members, grand banquets, and bad behaviour, including vandalism of restaurants and students' rooms. The club selects its members not only on the grounds of wealth and willingness to participate but also by means of education.

The Bullingdon was originally a sporting club, dedicated to cricket and horse-racing, although work meetings gradually became its principal activity. Membership is expensive, with tailor-made uniforms, regular gourmet hospitality, and a tradition of on-the-spot payment for damage".

It's not whether you have brains or not, it's what you do with them. If you are a power and money hungry narcissist you turn them to that.If there is one thing that strikes me about him, it's that he doesn't really care - its about manipulation and populism.

Wyllow3

However you got there, Eton is a stepping stone: when he went to Oxford he was out to be amongst the "old boys" oh what fun Bullingdon club.
Wiki
"The Bullingdon Club is a private all-male dining club for Oxford University students. It is known for its wealthy members, grand banquets, and bad behaviour, including vandalism of restaurants and students' rooms. The club selects its members not only on the grounds of wealth and willingness to participate but also by means of education.

The Bullingdon was originally a sporting club, dedicated to cricket and horse-racing, although work meetings gradually became its principal activity. Membership is expensive, with tailor-made uniforms, regular gourmet hospitality, and a tradition of on-the-spot payment for damage".

It's not whether you have brains or not, it's what you do with them. If you are a power and money hungry narcissist you turn them to that.If there is one thing that strikes me about him, it's that he doesn't really care - its about manipulation and populism.

I've just been re-reading Max Hasting's comments about Boris Johnson when he (Johnson) was just about to become PM of the Tory party.

The final sentence of his observations is telling.

I have known Johnson since the 1980s, when I edited the Daily Telegraph and he was our flamboyant Brussels correspondent. I have argued for a decade that, while he is a brilliant entertainer who made a popular maître d’ for London as its mayor, he is unfit for national office, because it seems he cares for no interest save his own fame and gratification.

Tory MPs have launched this country upon an experiment in celebrity government, matching that taking place in Ukraine and the US, and it is unlikely to be derailed by the latest headlines. The Washington Post columnist George Will observes that Donald Trump does what his political base wants “by breaking all the china”. We can’t predict what a Johnson government will do, because its prospective leader has not got around to thinking about this. But his premiership will almost certainly reveal a contempt for rules, precedent, order and stability.

Well what ever way you spin it, don’t think Eton is all it’s cracked up to be!

It’s only cracked up to be a good thing by those addicted to sending their children away to be moulded in a particular way

For those who say it wasn’t a witch hunt I would say it went far beyond what was justified by the supposed offence.and has set a very dangerous precedent. From now on Prime Minister’s questions will be punctuated with statements such as “I wouldn’t want to mislead the house so I’m sorry I can’t answer that question until I have consulted all the relevant people”

For those who say that the rot started with Boris have you conveniently forgotten that we were taken to war on the lie that Sadam Hussain could launch weapons of mass destruction in 45 minutes.

GrannyRose15 I fPrime Minsters and other ministers act honestly from the start and answer honestly when questioned, all those provisos are irrelevanr.

The phrases you quote are used only by those who lie as a matter of course and do not want to be caught contradicting themselves.