Has the penny dropped (as fast as the Pound)- Brexit is a disaster

I agree Galaxy. Although I voted to remain, I would not vote to rejoin. We have moved on and would have very little negotiating power.

I voted to remain but I accept what happened and get on with my life without ever thinking about Brexit. No need to feel sorry for me. And my AC is doing very well, as will his child. No need to feel sorry for them either. Please get over it! You don’t even live in the UK or the EU.

Zero. I note that Poland and Hungary are eying leaving the EU

You actually have no idea of the consequences of a return to the EU. I say this as a remainer, dad from the EU etc etc. If for example it was a very obvious reversal of the decision, I think the consequences could be very serious.

I find it ironic that someone who chooses to live in a European Country which is not a member of the EU is so fixated on the fact that the U.K. has now joined her homeland in not being in the EU.

You obviously have not seen the most recent and mutliple polls, that show that about 30% of the population would vote to leave currently. So there is the 70% to 'feel sorry for', mainly our ACs who are currently paying the price, and our GCs who will continue to pay for probably the rest of their life Yes, I do feel sorry for them.

Not sure. It will happen, in one form or another. It will take time, and we will never have the same opt outs and favourable conditions we had before. Not able to give % at this stage.

And I probably have another question .To fp and anyone else who wants to answer

What do you think the percentage chances are, of the Uk returning to the EU?

fancythat

I have never understood the concept of being sorry, or feeling sorry, for someone else when they dont feel sorry for themselves.

Perhaps I need to rephrase this and directly ask fp.

Presumably, obviously I couldnt say for 100% sure, half the UK would still vote Leave. Or thereabouts. Lets say at a guess 25%.
And this is all 7 years after the event.

Do you still feel sorry for those Leave people?
A yes or no answer would suffice.

But what can your constant complaints on here do about it? Nothing . It is what it is (an annoying and hackneyed phrase but never more true than here). You cannot change what has happened. None of us can. So stop the constant whinging and learn to live with it, as have the rest of us.

merlotgran 👏👏👏

Katie59

To me the referendum proved what gullible fools most voters are (a few on GN too) led like lambs to the slaughter by Tory wolves.

I posted earlier about people I worked amongst, struggling at the bottom of our society and worried about their cleaning/labouring/kitchen jobs being taken by EU workers prepared to work for less than their already low wages. Those witnessing their children’s classes being disrupted by the daily influx of bewildered children who spoke no English and were in many cases getting their first experience of education at 7 or 8 years old.

You’d have to have a very closed mind to call these people gullible fools.

Katie59

To me the referendum proved what gullible fools most voters are (a few on GN too) led like lambs to the slaughter by Tory wolves.

Well, I’m not too timid to declare I voted Leave and I’m certainly not a gullible fool 😡😡

My reasons are my business. Any issues I had with the EU had nothing to do with writings on a bus or anything coming out of Nigel Farage’s mouth. As for Lambs to the Slaughter…Don’t you think that’s a rather over dramatic, hackneyed cliche?

Most if us have far worse things to worry about these days than the state of fleurpepper’s pension. A tale of woe that’s not even worth the teeniest of tiny violins!

Next week is Glastonbury. The anniversary of that hilarious own goal by self satisfied gullible fools who were so certain the referendum would go their way they took themselves off for a weekend of fun rather than vote for their future. Why bother when you can blame the result on inferiors who made the effort to put an X on a piece of paper?

Norah

Aveline

I can't believe you're still going on about this. Is there nothing else going on in the world to be getting worked up about?

Agreed,

This is hard to take, really. On the one hand, I am constantly accused of 'running UK down'- because I am concerned about what is happening to the economy, the NHS, the financial sector, food prices, and so much more.

And those who accuse me of such, say, move on, nothing to see- what has happened has happened, and what will be will be...

It is beyond bizarre.

When The Telegraph (aka The Torygraph) publishes articles that vindicate Mark Carney's predictions (report in 2018), predicting that Brexit will cause high inflation, higher prices, higher mortgages, weaker pound (and therefore much less purchasing power and debt repayments) and slow growth- then you know something serious is going on, and will take many many years to recover from.

But we should forget about it, move on... If you care, you don't forget and move on. I'd say that would be the most uncaring thing to do. As it is our ACs and our GCs that will pay the heavy price, we owe it to them to acknowldege there are very serious issues caused by Brexit, and try to elect people who will seriously address them and try to find solutions.

Aveline

I can't believe you're still going on about this. Is there nothing else going on in the world to be getting worked up about?

Agreed,

Katie59

To me the referendum proved what gullible fools most voters are (a few on GN too) led like lambs to the slaughter by Tory wolves.

I would agree that Leave voters were probably naive, and that the Boris lot lied, but fools] (idiots) is not the best choice of word to describe those on GN who clearly stated their reasoning.

Not exaggerating at all!!😂😂😂

To me the referendum proved what gullible fools most voters are (a few on GN too) led like lambs to the slaughter by Tory wolves.

Ukraine?

Aveline

I can't believe you're still going on about this. Is there nothing else going on in the world to be getting worked up about?

No, there's nothing else going on in the world that's more important (apart from the damage caused by Brexit) than the divisions caused by 13 years of toxic Tory govt.

Don't get me wrong, we all worry about something else, whether its climate change, the lack of decent well paid employment, housing, the NHS and the cost of living. With a govt of a different nature our lives might have been different, maybe even better but almost certainly not worse.

Those of us born after WW2 had access to better health care and education than almost everyone who came before us. For many we had a better standard of living that that of our parents and grandparents but I don't think the same could be said for later generations.

varian

These weren't lies. The benefits of staying in the EU were real, unlike the illusory benefits,which were wholely fraudulent, peddled by the Leave iars. Please don't te us you actually believed the lie on the side of the bus.

I’ve still got the vote leave leaflets that were full of lies.

Aveline

I can't believe you're still going on about this. Is there nothing else going on in the world to be getting worked up about?

Nothing has happened at all in seven years, Aveline
Zilch, Nada, Ništa.

According to #SleepingBeauty

I didn’t even see the BUS - what a load of baloney

I can't believe you're still going on about this. Is there nothing else going on in the world to be getting worked up about?

These weren't lies. The benefits of staying in the EU were real, unlike the illusory benefits,which were wholely fraudulent, peddled by the Leave iars. Please don't te us you actually believed the lie on the side of the bus.