Has the penny dropped (as fast as the Pound)- Brexit is a disaster

I refer to the link provided by * Maggiemaybe*. It is all about "how we will achieve our vision".

Not at all, I don't understand what you mean, that is all.

Thank you for always remain civil though, it is appreciated.

Thank you. I am now "home" on British soil. 🇬🇧
With respect, Fleurpepper, "what on earth was that?" is usually an expression showing anger or disgust, which is why your comments can be seen as abrasive.

Sorry, not who, but what

'to implement everything we set out to achieve.'

What did 'we set out to achieve' by Brexit, that was actually 'achievable'???

Cameron, May, Boris ... any of them.
Davis, Frost, Gove.
None of them up to the job.

Joseann- glad to hear you are having a great time with friends in Brittany.

But would you be kind enough to clarify this 'My belief is that throughout the Brexit process and beyond, we have never had a leader with any real guts or high intelligence to implement everything we set out to achieve. '

what on earth was that? Could you explain?

Maizie, anoyne who knows me know that I am a very positive, happy and very open and tolerant person- and that we both have a very content and wonderful life. Personal attacks on GN did bother me greatly at one point, but nowadays it is like water on a very happy duck's back.

Aveline

You must be thrilled to read that. Meanwhile, life goes on fine.

I have to say I am stunned. 30% not long ago was quite something, but

9%

that is incredible. And yes, it shows that it is a real concern for the majority. I am glad life goes on fine for you, and for me too... hopefully for most on GN. But things are clearly not fine for many, who are strongly affected by inflation and the cost of living crisis, which is partly due to Brexit (yes, it is, all experts agree on this, even if many of you deny it). The young people who will have no choice but to sell their family home due to increase in mortgages on top of other massive price increases. I feel for them. No 'I'm alright Jack' from me.

As for Scotland, I am quite sure big changes afoot there too.

Rural areas versus towns was discussed earlier. And some towns more than others. You must be aware that Edinburgh is not representative of Scotland, in so so many ways.

A few years ago, a Leave-supporting politician relative of mine was asked whether Brexit had become a mess, or in other words, disaster. He replied along the lines of - what we are going through now is a Reformation. However, the problem is, we don’t have a Thomas Cromwell.

My belief is that throughout the Brexit process and beyond, we have never had a leader with any real guts or high intelligence to implement everything we set out to achieve. Without that person, Brexit is probably doomed. I agree with Fleurpepper that Rishi Sunak will be the next one to fall off the perch, but I don't agree that Starmer has it in him either.

You must be thrilled to read that. Meanwhile, life goes on fine.

9%

wow

In a recent sutvey only 9% of respondents thought brexit was more of a success than a failure.

news.sky.com/story/brexit-poll-suggests-just-9-of-britons-think-decision-to-leave-european-union-more-of-a-success-than-failure-12887197

Alan Sugar is still saying Brexit has been a disaster. As has Mark Carney and Michael Heseltine. But hey, what do they know?

So have I, and chose not to comment, as it is so biased and, to be frank- nonsense copied and pasted..

No point discussing any longer- the proof will be in the pudding, and the eating- and very soon. As said before, a GE will take place within a year, and very probably before. If Sunak is undermined or pushed, there is no way they can hang on till next year, and no way this tiny minority of card holding Tories could elect yet another PM, the 6th one in one term. The public would never allow that to happen at this stage.

I've scrolled through the document quite quickly and it seems very pie in the sky. Don't forget it was based upon work by a former govt minister. it would be easy, but rather time consuming to knock holes in it from beginning to end. I don't have the time. Too much other work to do. However, here's just one little example

"Trusted audit and corporate governance. Our objective is to restore public trust in the
way that the UK’s largest companies are run and scrutinised, ensure that the UK’s most
significant corporate entities are governed responsibly and keep the UK’s legal
frameworks for major businesses at the forefront of international best practice. HM
Government’s White Paper: ‘Restoring trust in audit and corporate governance’, sets out
comprehensive and ambitious plans to strengthen the UK’s audit, company reporting and
corporate governance framework. The proposals follow three independent reviews of audit
and recommendations made by the previous Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy
Select Committee in April 2019. We are considering the responses to the consultation
carefully and are developing a coherent, comprehensive and proportionate package of
reforms to audit and corporate governance."

From a govt that awards large contracts to its friends for billions of sterling.

Aveline

How are you coping with results from cantons that you don't agree with?

Very well, as they are in the minority, thank goodness. I wouldn't live there though.

toscalily

Joseann Has said that in a recent poll 46% of Bretons are pessimistic about the future of the EU, would you class them also as having a "limited view" for even considering leaving the EU?

That will be music to Putins ears. Any signs of division in Europe will make it easier for him to invade surrounding countries.

Mamie that's so good, don't do it until you do

Yes, I know what you mean. I've lived in France from the age of 14 on and off. However, the Bretons are a pretty forthright lot.

Et voilà.

I visited Guérande this week. Hold on while I search for a photo on my phone to add.

toscalily

Joseann Has said that in a recent poll 46% of Bretons are pessimistic about the future of the EU, would you class them also as having a "limited view" for even considering leaving the EU?

I think you have to live in France to understand French performative miserabilism.
We won't have vaccines against Covid until we do.
We won't vote for Macron until we do.
Everything is wrong with France but we wouldn't live anywhere else because it would be so much worse.
I would take that poll with a hefty pinch of Sel de Guérande.
😂😂😂

How are you coping with results from cantons that you don't agree with?

Joseann Has said that in a recent poll 46% of Bretons are pessimistic about the future of the EU, would you class them also as having a "limited view" for even considering leaving the EU?

toscalily

Fleurpepper May I ask, are you referring to the UK or Switzerland when you said this?

"The comment about Norfolk would apply to other rural regions- including the one where I live now. A mix of locals who have always lived there and have therefore a limited view (fair enough) and wealthy incomers, many retired, in larger houses, who are very Conservative (and a few exceptions in between). They are the areas where Brexit is still favoured, unlike the rest of the country.

I am referring to rural areas all over the world, including where I live currently.

Today we had 3 major issues to vote on. And again, as per usual, the really rural areas (Cantons) voted on all 3 issues very differently to the rest of the country. So my comment was not 'just' about Norfolk (which I know very well, and have done for 45 years).