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Colin Pitchfork can be released

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maddyone Thu 15-Jun-23 13:38:05

Apparently this murderer of two fifteen year old girls in the eighties can be released from prison. He was released in 2021 after 33 years but was recalled to prison after he was caught approaching young women. The Parole Board have now decided he can be released again.
Should he be released?

Smileless2012 Sun 18-Jun-23 12:31:55

Childhood abuse or neglect IMO are not mitigating circumstances for a rapist and murderer. The parole board made a mistake in 2021 so I have no confidence that they're not about to repeat it.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 12:32:13

For once we completely agree Glorianny.

nanna8 Sun 18-Jun-23 12:34:16

These people can be very manipulative . I am guessing butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth in jail. I bet he sucks up to the authorities constantly and if they are dumb enough to get sucked in and release him it is actually quite alarming. Doesn’t say much for the quality of people on the parole board does it ?

Glorianny Sun 18-Jun-23 12:35:58

Mohutch

If the parole board have decided to release him they have good reason. Prisons run programmes to make offenders look at their motives (which often stem from childhood abuse or neglect) and the effect on their victims and families.People change with appropriate help.I am all for removing violent people from society for a few years but the parole board are the only people in full possession of the facts.Sofor those of us who know nothing about this man to say they are wrong is not justice, it is mass hatred of the sort whipped up against many minority groups and is a dangerous path. I have worked in a prison and I have seen at first hand the changes which an be made by suitable education programmes

I would certainly say that parole should be available to all prisoners and the chance for rehabilitation should always be considered. I think the point about this case is that it is a second attempt in a relatively short time.
There are people who will offend again and from whom society must be protected. It isn't mass hatred. It is recognising the difference between those who are truly repentant and reformed and those for whom prison is necessary for the protection of the public.

Silvertwigs Sun 18-Jun-23 12:39:42

If it was up to me he wouldn’t be alive and there would be no discussion.

Smileless2012 Sun 18-Jun-23 12:40:59

"It isn't mass hatred. It is recognising the difference between those who are truly repentant and reformed and those for whom prison is necessary for the protection of the public" exactly Glorianny.

Summerfly Sun 18-Jun-23 12:49:11

He should be kept in prison until he dies. Imagine the grief it would cause to the relatives of the young girls he so brutally murdered should he be freed. Life should mean life!

Cossy Sun 18-Jun-23 13:21:03

Personal opinion is never !

4allweknow Sun 18-Jun-23 13:25:22

No, he had his chance in 2021.

Saggi Sun 18-Jun-23 13:38:24

NO! NEVER! None of these ‘people’ who prey on others should be out.

Jaxie Sun 18-Jun-23 13:40:33

On the parole board’s head if he murders again. This has happened in the past where murderers have been released only to commit further such crimes.

Scottiebear Sun 18-Jun-23 13:54:05

No
He should never go free.

Gillycats Sun 18-Jun-23 14:13:35

I feel so very sorry for the victims families. He should have been locked up forever. He’s evil.

HannahLoisLuke Sun 18-Jun-23 14:17:02

Why have the PB got such short memories for heavens sake?

SachaMac Sun 18-Jun-23 14:19:47

I agree Summerfly I can’t believe the PB would consider releasing him again! He has probably manipulated the whole situation to convince them, you’d hope they would have the sense & the skills to see through him though!!

Pammie1 Sun 18-Jun-23 14:30:20

bevisp1

Probably not, but what I do know is that when he was released in 2021, he was living in Portsmouth, and I am not far from this area. So something like this on your doorstep, we don’t want him here.

Perhaps one of the considerations of the parole board should be whether they would be happy to have him as a neighbour on his release !!

Pammie1 Sun 18-Jun-23 14:58:31

Mohutch

If the parole board have decided to release him they have good reason. Prisons run programmes to make offenders look at their motives (which often stem from childhood abuse or neglect) and the effect on their victims and families.People change with appropriate help.I am all for removing violent people from society for a few years but the parole board are the only people in full possession of the facts.Sofor those of us who know nothing about this man to say they are wrong is not justice, it is mass hatred of the sort whipped up against many minority groups and is a dangerous path. I have worked in a prison and I have seen at first hand the changes which an be made by suitable education programmes

Well their ‘good reason’ in 2021 was clearly misplaced because he ended up back in prison. So why, only two years later, should there be any reason to think anything has changed in such a short space of time, given that despite spending the previous 33 years benefiting from the programmes and appropriate help of which you speak, there was no evidence of any change ? Why should the public put their trust in a parole board who got it so wrong first time round ?

The public may not be in possession of facts the parole board has access to, but that doesn’t mean objections to his release are mass hatred, or anything like it. I don’t believe any education programme is capable of effecting change in offenders like Pitchfork and his ilk, and it’s time to accept that some crimes are, by their very nature, evidence that the perpetrators are too dangerous to ever be released, and the public are entitled to expect to be protected from such people.

Liz62 Sun 18-Jun-23 15:00:26

Absolutely not, shouldn't even be thinking about releasing him !

Pammie1 Sun 18-Jun-23 15:03:58

HannahLoisLuke

Why have the PB got such short memories for heavens sake?

Their philosophy seems to be that no-one is beyond help and they have no compunction in putting the public at risk to prove the point. Don’t know what they think the last 2 years has changed that the previous 33 couldn’t !!

Saetana Sun 18-Jun-23 16:16:52

I have a feeling this is one thread where we will all be in total agreement - this monster should NEVER be allowed out of prison! What on earth are the parole board thinking?

Mallin Sun 18-Jun-23 16:19:32

No man who has killed two young women should even be considered for release from prison.

Nanatoone Sun 18-Jun-23 16:25:53

Absolutely not. He is a recidivist and should not be out on the streets endangering women and girls. No.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 18-Jun-23 16:32:12

He was denied parole in 2016 and 2018. He succeeded in 2021 and had to be recalled after two months. It is possible that the PB’s decision will be the subject of judicial review. I sincerely hope so - and quashed.

Blinko Sun 18-Jun-23 16:54:11

Germanshepherdsmum

He was denied parole in 2016 and 2018. He succeeded in 2021 and had to be recalled after two months. It is possible that the PB’s decision will be the subject of judicial review. I sincerely hope so - and quashed.

Indeed.

Let us also hope that the present PB is replaced by people who are able to apply common sense.

DiamondLily Sun 18-Jun-23 17:11:22

According to the TV yesterday, only 66 prisoners have a whole life tariff, out of 180,00.

Let's just hope he's closely monitored.🙁