Meanwhile the earth is burning

All the hype about AI being an existential threat to humanity is so ironic, when the climate threat is staring us in the face.

Parts of the world are now going to regularly see temperatures at or above 50c, which is no longer inhabitable to life.

So worrying and yes people seem uninterested and dismissive. Honestly I don't know what can be done . Why can't people see it , and do they care

Well they will be able to grow stuff in the Arctic and Antarctic then and you can look forward to a great grape harvest in the UK. It is certainly not getting warmer here, colder every year. I think it is more climate shifting round and the cold countries becoming warmer. Definitely changing but not as straight forward as everywhere getting warmer.

Interesting viewpoint nanna8. Time will tell I suppose but we won't be around to see it. Fingers crossed for DGSs.

I belong to the Earth Holder Community, XR, Greenpeace and support Sussex Wildlife. I believe that we need to live our own lives in an ecologically aware way and to talk to others about this situation in order to be able to cope psychologically with it.. I also read Positive News Magazine to keep track of some good news stories from around the world.. we can only act responsibly and continue to put pressure on Government and the Big Industrial Industries through on-line petitions etc or we will become overwhelmed with grief with this rapid decline in our beautiful planet.. be aware and act mindfully

Ironically one of the reasons given for the rise in sea temperature around our southern coasts is the fall in particulates being emitted from shipping in the Channel into the atmosphere along with a fall in dust from the Sahara - both of which reflect the sun's rays back towards space.

“The Amazon Rain forest is effectively dead, as it no longer has the capacity to renew itself.”

I would dispute this. Latest research suggests that rain forests can regenerate to 78% of their old growth status within 20 years.

Re the point previously mentioned, that some countries would become too warm to be habitable, I was remarking to someone just last week that perhaps, in the future, ‘ climate immigrants ‘ might be coming to the area where I live, (NE Scotland ), as, at the moment, it is still relatively cool.

nanna8

Well they will be able to grow stuff in the Arctic and Antarctic then and you can look forward to a great grape harvest in the UK. It is certainly not getting warmer here, colder every year. I think it is more climate shifting round and the cold countries becoming warmer. Definitely changing but not as straight forward as everywhere getting warmer.

Tell me you don’t understand climate change and its impacts without saying you don’t understand climate change and its impacts.

And you are wrong about Australia.

www.bom.gov.au/state-of-the-climate/australias-changing-climate.shtml

www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/factsheets/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Regional_Fact_Sheet_Australasia.pdf

amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jun/23/if-global-heating-is-a-thing-why-is-so-called-right-now-weather

You - along with the rest of us - are already almost half-way to 3C change

theconversation.com/amp/seriously-ugly-heres-how-australia-will-look-if-the-world-heats-by-3-c-this-century-157875

I do fear for my GCs as governments don't take this seriously enough and little is done. The ice caps are melting sending fresh water into the sea. This could eventually cause the UK to become much colder.

and who is to say that this is not mainly our planet cycling like it always has done?

Of course it is, but there are reasons for not admitting that.

I genuinely despair.

The climate is changing. The sea levels are rising as are temperatures. There will be parts of the Uk that will be submerged as the sea rises and the coastline erodes. It's not a great prospect for our grandchildren, even though people will adapt and survive.

It's nature, the world changes all the time. Nothing new.

The changes are now extreme and unsustainable. I can’t get my head around why people aren’t more ‘concerned about it, and the consequences. It’s not like we just have bad years, such as the drought of ‘76. Every year throughout the world it’s becoming the norm. And in spite of our efforts in this country the US, China and Russia are still the main offenders so until they do something I fear that disaster will be sooner rather than later.

Earth is 454000000000 (4.54 billion) years old, we have had weather data since 1889, only 143 years. Early data is not reliable mainly due to non standardised methodologies and more primitive instrumentation. Joined up global weather data only became available in the mid 20th century with the advent of computer technology. There are also billions of non digitised weather records which have not been taken into account.
We are looking at a weather model still in progress.

Even if the changes are a natural cycle we humans are not prepared for very high or very low temperatures. There was an ice age so who knows what's in the future.

There are too many countries that are not onboard or cannot do much about it. All the countries that can are trying. Only time will tell. I don't think enough is being done in a timely way. Start with the highest pollution ie aircraft and HGVs. But no one wants that do they, no let's pick on the little man first and curtail their freedom to move locally.

Of course the Amazon rain forest isn’t dead.
They might have had large chunks chopped out of it, but there is still an awful lot of it left.
I agree with Sawsage2.
It’s nature and there is no holding it back.
The world is evolving and changing constantly.
Who are we to interfere. I’m

I realise this is leading horses to water, but for the ‘we can’t tell it’s people’, ‘it’s just nature’, ‘it’s how it’s always been’ believers

royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/

Of course there have always been climate cycles and temperatures have gone up and down, but the point is that human activity has caused the warming part of this cycle to speed up to such an extent that we haven’t got time to adapt. Also, remember, there are an awful lot more people than ever before, so not only does that make the speeding up worse, it also makes migration out of places which become too hot or dry very difficult.

I too despair that governments are doing too little and listening to oil companies who apparently knew about climate change a great deal earlier than they want to admit.

I believe that as the environment deteriorates the green and extreme activist parties will gain power and eventually sweep away todays crooked elite.

There will be a new elite who judge harshly those who have more than one child in a world which is globally overpopulated. Each individual will bear not only their own carbon footprint but those of the offspring they produce. Families will be castigated as consumers and producers of waste and will be charged extra taxes.