Missing Titanic Submarine

Millie22

Horrendous

I have a concern about the whole concept of this as the wreck of the Titanic should not be a tourist trip experience.

No, I agree, it's ghoulish.

What on earth possessed them? To put your trust in one person who had no control or safety net if things didn't go according to plan, to be locked in a cramped box underwater.
It's worse than looking for a needle in a haystack.

There’s been banging noises picked up and the remote vehicles redeployed but that’s horrendous because if they’re still alive there won’t be time to rescue them if that’s even possible. Tragedy for all involved but my heart goes out to the 19 year old on board.

It sounds like a very cheaply and poorly constructed vessel. The hope has to be that this small white and grey tube is bobbing about on the sea surface. Why on earth was it not coated in a bright fluorescent colour? It must be nigh on impossible to spot in the sea, if it is floating

I can sensé thé Hollywood directors and screen writers ghoulishly rubbing their hands together.

The money spent by them all in that ‘thing’ could have built a hospital but they chose to be confined in a tiny tiny claustrophobic space to go to the bottom of the ocean to gawp at a wreck that went down over a century ago why ….….just because
How much is the attempted rescue costing in time money and could even be lives ?
Whilst I feel sorrow when anyone loses a life or comes close to losing a life and I hope (although I very much doubt) they will be rescued I really can’t feel as much sorrow or horror as I did when those little lads were trapped in a cave or the miners underground for days, why ? because they didn’t choose.
And no I m not hard hearted just being truthful

I went to a talk once given by a submariner. It was absolutely fascinating but scary.

The money spent on this doomed trip could nowhere near build a hospital BlueBelle. I find all the comments on the costs so unnecessary. Wealthy people can spend their money how they please and I’d hazard a guess that these men are humanitarians as well as adventurers.

M0nica

Freya I am sorry you interpreted my post the way you did. My intention was the opposite. To show how regardless of origins and purpose, wealth or poverty, fate treats us all the same.

Since you needed everything spelled out, once on/in the water, the lives of these people and the fates they face/d are the same and they are equally dependent on the skill and humanitarian aid of others.

Where you see division I see humanity brought together in the fates they face and their dependency on others

"Since you needed everything spelled out, once on/in the water, the lives of " was it necessary to be so patronising and belittling . At least one other reader agreed with me.

Primrose53

I went to a talk once given by a submariner. It was absolutely fascinating but scary.

So true. I could never do their jobs. Being a submariner must be incredibly difficult, both for them and their families. I have every respect for them.

tickingbird

The money spent on this doomed trip could nowhere near build a hospital BlueBelle. I find all the comments on the costs so unnecessary. Wealthy people can spend their money how they please and I’d hazard a guess that these men are humanitarians as well as adventurers.

Absolutely.

Either they are humanitarians and have donated generously to good causes; or they are not humanitarians, and if they hadn't spent their money on this trip, they still wouldn't have spent in on a good cause.

I woke to the news of the underwater noises. I was even more horrified than the day before.

Their poor families. This morning’s news of banging noises must only have added to their torment with so little time left.

I’m with BlueBelle to some extent. They seem to have more money than sense. I don’t find embarking on dangerous missions brave or admirable. I think it’s selfish, and inconsiderate to their families and the rescue services,

That said, I hope they are rescued safe and well.

Grannynannywanny

Their poor families. This morning’s news of banging noises must only have added to their torment with so little time left.

I thought the banging noises was a better sign as, if it is from the sub. it would possibly make it easier to locate.

I do hope these poor people are rescued, however foolhardy we might think they have been.

Even if they can locate it, I don’t know if they will be able to bring it to the surface before the air supply runs out.

Much as I abhor the mawkish interest in the Titanic I know that there will always be adventurers, and humanity is shown at its best in the people who come together prepared to search for them.

What’s the difference between tramping around the valley of the kings, gazing at mummies in Cairo Museum, Pompeii and shells of bodies, even visiting old country churchyards etc etc and viewing the Titanic? In many cases, only a time difference.

My idea of hell to be at the bottom of the ocean, but I and I’m sure many of you criticising the unfortunate souls in the Titan have done the above.

Why is everything measured in hospitals. If every penny not spent on basic subsistence was spent on hospitals the world would be awash with hospitals, most without patients. But that is not what people do. If we forego a terrifying ride on something at a Fun Fair, we do not put it in a charity box, we buy an ice cream instead.

There is no evidence to suggest that if tbese people had not gone undersea to the Titanic that the money would otherwise be spent on worthy causes. It could have otherwise been spent on alcohol, exploiting women and children, or torturing monkeys, which would you prefer?

All that matters, at the moment, is that the people in this vessel my still be alive, so it is worth trying to rescue them.

Totally agree M0nica 👏👏👏

All that matters, at the moment, is that the people in this vessel my still be alive, so it is worth trying to rescue them Well said M0nica this is truly all that matters.

hollysteers

I agrée with your post and was thinking the same earlier. I’ve been inside a pyramid (wished I hadn’t as was claustrophobic and almost had a panic attack). I’m also going to Pompeii this year. Having said that, this trip was/is fraught with danger and not something I would even consider.

MOnica. I’m sure you’re right. Those submariners made a very sensible decision to opt out of news from home for the personal and operational reasons you describe. It was tough on sailors and families, I think. There was a 14 year age gap between my brother and myself. I remember being still at school and in my mid teens, I suppose, going to stay with my sister in law doing the summer school holidays when my brother was at sea. We had a great relationship and I hope my company helped alleviate some of the loneliness and anxiety while he was away. I think that was the purpose but for me as a teenager it was just a nice little holiday by the seaside!

It gives you an inkling of what those who are watching and waiting for news are going through. It must be agonising.

BlueBelle

The money spent by them all in that ‘thing’ could have built a hospital but they chose to be confined in a tiny tiny claustrophobic space to go to the bottom of the ocean to gawp at a wreck that went down over a century ago why ….….just because
How much is the attempted rescue costing in time money and could even be lives ?
Whilst I feel sorrow when anyone loses a life or comes close to losing a life and I hope (although I very much doubt) they will be rescued I really can’t feel as much sorrow or horror as I did when those little lads were trapped in a cave or the miners underground for days, why ? because they didn’t choose.
And no I m not hard hearted just being truthful

One would presume they have paid the right amount of tax they owe so they would already have been contributing to the public funds, public services.
I hope their staff are paid well too and not exploited.
Theu0y may well have made large charitable donations too.

What they do with their own earned money after tax is up to them as long as it's not against the law.

I do hope they can be rescued, they must be frightened and their relatives distraught.

I do wish that we saw less of these rather pointless "this money could have been spent on something so much worthier" comments. You could apply that to virtually any situation, including : "This 100 quid I'm about to spend on groceries in Sainsbury's would be far better spent if I donated it to the R.N.L.I." Probably true, but the two cases have no interdependence. We all make personal choices as to what we spend our money on, so why should anyone else sit in judgement on that, regardless of the scale of expenditure?

Regardless of all the ifs and buts, apart from the five people in the vessel facing a horrible fate, we need to remember that there are their families and friends who must be going through absolute torture at the moment knowing what their loved ones must be experiencing. No money in the world can make up for that.