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Increasing the interest rate to 5%, is this really the fairest way to slow inflation?

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foxie48 Thu 22-Jun-23 18:35:32

I will not personally be affected as we paid off our mortgage years ago and don't have any debts but I am so worried about how this will affect so many families and young people who are already struggling. A divorced friend has been trying to sell her house as the children have moved out and she no longer gets maintenance. She is really struggling to pay her mortgage but despite reducing the price of her home, she still can't sell. She's been selling belongings to make ends meet. I'm sure she's representative of lots of people and they are not the people who should be targeted, it's people like me! Mortgage free, decent pension, savings, with the ability to soak up extra costs. What do others think?

MerylStreep Thu 22-Jun-23 18:44:06

Worse is to come next year when the government scraps section 21. Landlords have been selling their properties at an alarming rate.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 22-Jun-23 18:45:17

This isn’t going to work anyway.

The bank is trying to slow demand in order to stop inflation, but it isn’t demand that is pushing up inflation - it is a supply crises, energy and goods.

The government has a number of tools in its box it could use, but it seems struck by severe inertia, and is sitting on the sidelines moaning about the BoE.

And to answer your question - no it isn’t fair or right

Dinahmo Thu 22-Jun-23 18:51:54

Thee has been a lot of advice on tv about what to do if you can't pay meet your mortgage repayments. One is to extend the term of the mortgage. Another is to ask for a repayment holiday and a third is to switch to an interest only mortgage.

Depending upon where your friend lives she could rent a room. Tax relief is available for rents less than £7500 (time apportioned if the let period is less than one year. This relief is only available to someone renting a room in their own house.

M0nica Thu 22-Jun-23 18:52:21

What is the alternative?

ronib Thu 22-Jun-23 18:57:17

This strikes me as being unfair and ineffective. For a start the government’s claim is that 5 percent will slow down inflation and I don’t follow the logic, such as it is. So this policy is damaging young people on the whole. It seems that the government wants to make it difficult for people to spend surplus money by taking away surplus money! So much for a growth strategy. However there are more people without a mortgage than with. Why target this group? I didn’t think that Rishi Sunak could be this bad to be fair.

MaizieD Thu 22-Jun-23 18:59:18

M0nica

What is the alternative?

What is the alternative to what, MOnica?

You're an economist. You surely must know that there is more than one cause of inflation and that supply side inflation can't be controlled by putting up interest rates?

Better to cut them rather than continue to make people poorer for no gain.

Norah Thu 22-Jun-23 19:01:31

What are various current mortgage interest rates? Projections?

Projected savings interest rates?

MaizieD Thu 22-Jun-23 19:02:35

However there are more people without a mortgage than with

Don't forget, ronib that there are also many people renting and many rents have risen with interest rates, too.

Also, businesses with loans, on which they have to pay more interest, are likely to raise their prices, too, in order to cover their costs.

ronib Thu 22-Jun-23 19:15:41

MaizieD so hardly likely to be deflationary as a political gesture?

growstuff Thu 22-Jun-23 19:17:41

The only way I can see it being deflationary is if businesses go bankrupt and people lose their jobs (and homes), forcing them to live hand to mouth.

ronib Thu 22-Jun-23 19:20:34

I don’t want to hog the debate but how is forcing people into poverty ‘deflationary’?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 22-Jun-23 19:23:03

But what do we know is causing inflation?

First the cost of energy

Second the cost of raw materials, imported goods and food.

What is not causing inflation is the rise in salaries and spare money in the system. People, particularly those with families are struggling to pay their bills so what is the logic of taking even more money out of the system?

What needs to be addressed is the supply crises. The government could and should have capped the price of fuel at a much lower rise taking the inflation headline down immediately, and indeed energy costs are beginning to fall, but the biggest issue is the supply crises in imports, raw materials etc. and this is still a real underlying issue and showing no sign of falling.

growstuff Thu 22-Jun-23 19:25:54

ronib

I don’t want to hog the debate but how is forcing people into poverty ‘deflationary’?

Because they'll hardly have any money to spend, so retailers will be forced to bring down prices if they want to sell anything (that appears to be the government's theory anyway).

ronib Thu 22-Jun-23 19:30:50

Growstuff this is no way to govern.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 22-Jun-23 19:34:05

Suppressing peoples spending ability will simply push the economy into a recession.

Ilovecheese Thu 22-Jun-23 19:39:05

Very rich people are saying that we "need" a recession.

ronib Thu 22-Jun-23 19:42:13

It just struck me that RS is ex Goldman Sacks and I wonder if he’s trying to expand profits in the banking sector?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 22-Jun-23 19:46:05

Ilovecheese

Very rich people are saying that we "need" a recession.

We don’t and it won’t work. Remember Thatcher she forced the country into recession to “tackle” inflation - although the reasons for inflation were very different then- and as a result working people suffered badly, with 3million unemployed, thousands losing their homes etc

But it didn’t work.

The only thing that worked was the Big Bang in the city and growth.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 22-Jun-23 20:01:05

The government needs to address the supply crises and the answer is staring them in the face.

growstuff Thu 22-Jun-23 20:04:36

ronib

Growstuff this is no way to govern.

I'm not claiming it is. IMO it's nuts.

growstuff Thu 22-Jun-23 20:06:20

Whitewavemark2

Suppressing peoples spending ability will simply push the economy into a recession.

I think that could be the idea. Then people will be afraid of losing their jobs, so won't demand a pay rise or they will actually lose their jobs and end up taking any job going, whatever the pay.

growstuff Thu 22-Jun-23 20:07:37

Whitewavemark2

The government needs to address the supply crises and the answer is staring them in the face.

But that might involve pesky foreigners! hmm

growstuff Thu 22-Jun-23 20:08:26

Ilovecheese

Very rich people are saying that we "need" a recession.

Then they can buy up all the property going cheap and rent it back to the people who used to own it!

M0nica Thu 22-Jun-23 20:09:18

MaizieD what is the alternative to Increasing the interest rate to 5%,........ to slow inflation?