Going back into Europe

And just to add these measures had taken effect and the economy was beginning to show resilience and growth until the Tories got it and clobbered it with austerity.

Beddoes has a more up-to date analysis Ww2

Michel Barnier has made it clear that the door is always open.

Yes, they will allow more integration if we obey THEIR rules on everything. They are not going to change anything to suit us.

Katie59

Michel Barnier has made it clear that the door is always open.

Yes, they will allow more integration if we obey THEIR rules on everything. They are not going to change anything to suit us.

Keep in mind that it is an economic club from which the members derive benefits. So democratically the rules have been decided by the members for the members - most of which we had a very large say in. The rules oil the trade and economic rules and provides a level playground for all the businesses.

Now say you are a member of a tennis club and someone applies to join, but says that they actually don’t like the rules and could they please opt out of those they don’t like - perhaps giving them therefore advantage when they play a game with another member who sticks to the rules.

What would your reaction be?

Katie59

Michel Barnier has made it clear that the door is always open.

Yes, they will allow more integration if we obey THEIR rules on everything. They are not going to change anything to suit us.

It would be even more extraordinarily stupid* of us to expect the EU to change its rules to accommodate us. Rules which we were instrumental in making when we were at the top table in the EU.

The whole point of the EU is that it is a set of 'rules' designed to facilitate trade (and more) between the member states.

But there is always space for a little stretching...

*having already had the extraordinary stupidity to leave the EU

Such good news for scientists.

We are rejoining Horizon or at least close to a deal.

Step 1😄

I think that it's inevitable that the UK will slide back. Probably under less favourable terms having weakened our position.

Siope

The EU doesn’t just make up separate rules to ‘punish’ individual countries.

Anyway delighted to see that we are set to rejoin both Horizon Europe and the Copernicus Earth observation programme very shortly.

Yes Siope I was delighted to see those rejoins, and my son who is a maths academic working in the field of medical maths equally pleased.

I honestly dont know if a rejoin would help. And Urms as a L Party member I can assure you a rejoin is not in anyway policy.

But I do definitely feel that aspects of customs and market and standards agreements need to be attended to asap to be brought in line for trading matters.

ronib

fancythat The Economist Nov 18 2022 ‘Why a global recession is inevitable in 2023’ Zanny Bedford
Behind a paywall though.

Thanks.
Hate things being behind a paywall.

Fancy that If you register with the Economist, you can read three articles free a month.

We Voted Leave.

I’d love to be part of the EU again. I can see not one single advantage being out of it.

Yes yes yes. What happened to.tje money Boris said would go into the NHS.

jane1956

We Voted Leave.

Nothing is for ever. How stupid would that be? Particularly if it is harming our economy.

I hope we never rejoin. They overturned our laws, dictated what our farmers could grow and forced us to support the families of people working here, who were still in their own country. No thanks

Can you give examples of the the laws that were overturned ,please.

Brexit was a crime against the people of the UK and here in Scotland the majority didn't want it. We have lost so much and it's ongoing and felt by many people in all sorts of ways.

Part of why Scotland wants independence is to get back into the EU....to name just one aspect.

Will it happen in my lifetime... I doubt it.

I wouldn't blame Europe if they declined a future request from us to rejoin... I think they now perceive us as a bunch of arrogant, misguided idiots.

We are currently a tiny isolated island, rapidly going down the tubes, thinking we are a giant in the world... a joke ,if it wasn't so devastating!

These people just don’t or can’t accept the democratic vote we held in 2016 .
No we don’t wish to go back in the single market or anything else,be ruled by foreign powers and pay billions to other countries for the priveledge .
We voted to leave !

We are in nato .We do not need to be in the eu for defence

Well why don’t you go live in an eu country if you love it so much .

I so hope we dont rejoin, our fishermen deserved better and in the harbour where I live there were big thank you signs everywhere, very moving. I felt so thankful we were out, hope our leave vote doesnt get reversed.

Well, well ...

“EU laws which banks have been accused of using to close customers’ accounts over their political views are expected to be scrapped under plans being considered by ministers.”

Source: today’s Telegraph.

There was so much misinformation about the EU that the referendum was totally flawed. Forexample, we could control immigration in part as only those with jobs, self employed or students had the right to stay beyond three months.
ukandeu.ac.uk/we-can-control-eu-migration-we-just-havent-done-it/
Regarding the EU rules, we always had the right of veto, though it was rarely used.
I would heartily welcome a return to the EU though we would never get such favourable terms.

Rejoining (on worse terms) is a long way off because politicians are afraid of some voters who are misled by the noisy Tory right wing and the right wing media but I think it will happen eventually.

And ‘well well’ again!

DONALD TUSK, who told Brexiteers they had a “special place in hell” when he was European Council president, has adopted the “Take Back Control” slogan for his Polish election campaign.

“During the Brexit negotiations in 2019, Mr Tusk criticised supporters of Brexit for trying to leave the EU.

But now he has echoed Vote Leave’s motto in a video attacking the incumbent Law and Justice party, as he seeks to become Poland’s prime minister.

“Poles must regain control over their country and its borders!” Mr Tusk said, before criticising Law and Justice for failing to stop migrants from Islamic countries arriving in Poland.”

Source: today’s Telegraph.

A case of do as I say not as I do Mr Tusk??