Children’s Asylum Centre ‘too welcoming’ 😢

Astonishing the number of GNs on here who seem to be to the right of Farage, on this issue!
If you can wait until Wednesday, no doubt the 'other side of the story' will be revealed, when Sunak takes his place on the front bench for PMQs.

Maremia Sunak won’t be doing PMQs again next week.
It will be Oliver Dowden again

I have no words… Some people are just vile !!

^ixion you may be interested to know that the statistics gathered by the government are incomplete and need to apparently be cross-referenced with other data.
I do wish it was all in one place! I've now spent two hours trying to understand what info comes from where!^

Thank you NotSpaghetti
I started here
www.gov.uk/government/publications/illegal-migration-bill-factsheets/illegal-migration-bill-children-factsheet
but am rapidly disappearing down various rabbit holes!😡

foxie48

Primrose53 many refugees are well educated with skills, they have often had a good standard of living in their own country, want to work and create a new life for themselves. Most wish their own country was a place they could stay. Another way of looking at it is to consider that once refugees have leave to work they are actually adding something valuable to this country and unlike "homegrown" workers we have not had to nurture or educate them. I think it's sad that there is such a misunderstanding, spread by racists in the main, I'm afraid, that refugees are coming here to "milk" our society. It really isn't true.

I did outreach work and worked both inside a jobcentre and seconded to an LA and I worked with several migrants and care-leavers, some of whom arrived in this country as unaccompanied minors - a very small percentage of those purporting to be under 18 clearly were over 18. However on the whole refugees, whatever route they took to gain entry to the UK are desperate people, lots of them were well educated and spoke English well. Please remember there is a huge difference between a refugee, an economic migrant and travelling romanies - we have all three in this country

GSM. I am absolutely horrified by your total lack of understanding of the plight of these poor souls who are fleeing the worst of atrocities imaginable. You are beyond pompous

FannyCornforth

To be honest, I have no idea why I am commenting.
I must stop. It’s ludicrous

It is - so I have- just cannot bear to take part anymore.

Our small rural valley has recently welcomed 90 youngsters, unaccompanied refugees at a local centre. They have been welcomed by most, so many volunteers to help with outings, practising their French, help with school support, sport, music, art, and so much more.

My grandson is 17- he is so tall, has facial and body hair and a low voice, and could easily pass for an adult. He is just a kid ...

Thos who come to UK often have family or other people they know there, and they can speak good English- so they know that will help with school and, eventually, finding work.

Shame on those who support Jendrick's pathetic, ridiculous and sick action.

Please watch 'Welcome' a wonderful French film about a boy ... who wants to cross to join the love of his life.

You would have to have a heart the size of a walnut to think of removing the tiniest possible scrap of enjoyment that scared and bewildered children might derive from looking at a pretty picture.

Makes me wondered whether they are allowed any toys to play with, or whether that might be considered too welcoming. God forbid that we should welcome homeless kids!

Marthjolly1

GSM. I am absolutely horrified by your total lack of understanding of the plight of these poor souls who are fleeing the worst of atrocities imaginable. You are beyond pompous

Has it occurred to you that people stopped fleeing when they reached a safe country? After passing through several safe countries why are they still described as desperate?

Cossy

foxie48

Primrose53 many refugees are well educated with skills, they have often had a good standard of living in their own country, want to work and create a new life for themselves. Most wish their own country was a place they could stay. Another way of looking at it is to consider that once refugees have leave to work they are actually adding something valuable to this country and unlike "homegrown" workers we have not had to nurture or educate them. I think it's sad that there is such a misunderstanding, spread by racists in the main, I'm afraid, that refugees are coming here to "milk" our society. It really isn't true.

I did outreach work and worked both inside a jobcentre and seconded to an LA and I worked with several migrants and care-leavers, some of whom arrived in this country as unaccompanied minors - a very small percentage of those purporting to be under 18 clearly were over 18. However on the whole refugees, whatever route they took to gain entry to the UK are desperate people, lots of them were well educated and spoke English well. Please remember there is a huge difference between a refugee, an economic migrant and travelling romanies - we have all three in this country

I also have vast experience of working with people entering this country when Idi Amin threw them out of Uganda. Hundreds of them! I went into local high schools to talk to the kids, I interviewed people for jobs, I found jobs for people, I helped collect furniture and other basics for families who were moving into houses with nothing.

I visited them in their homes, ate with them, helped with form filling etc and made some friends who I am still in touch with today over 50 years later!

The difference is almost all of them held British passports and came here legally. They were well educated and many had professional jobs in Uganda. They literally came with a suitcase and a few quid, everything else was stolen from them before they left. They certainly could not have found sums like 15,000 € to pay people smugglers. As they had passports and ID and qualification records they were able to find work fairly soon AND we knew who they were and something about their backgrounds.

Ugandan Asians are some of the most successful business people in this country and worked hard from the day they set foot here.

I couldn’t agree more. You can’t compare them with people coming here on dinghies, many of whom don’t speak English and have no intention of contributing to this country but every intention of taking from it. Explain otherwise the group of migrants I have already described encountering, demanding benefits in a police station.

Germanshepherdsmum

Marthjolly1

GSM. I am absolutely horrified by your total lack of understanding of the plight of these poor souls who are fleeing the worst of atrocities imaginable. You are beyond pompous

Has it occurred to you that people stopped fleeing when they reached a safe country? After passing through several safe countries why are they still described as desperate?

One of the reasons children come here is because they have family members already here. Sadly some of them are also exploited and ill used by family members and others. They also become deeply ashamed of their origins and try to conceal it. Even the most successful do this. Mo Farah for example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Mo_Farah
Thanks are due to the teachers and school who sorted out British citizenship for him-no matter how they did it.

Primrose53

Cossy

foxie48

Primrose53 many refugees are well educated with skills, they have often had a good standard of living in their own country, want to work and create a new life for themselves. Most wish their own country was a place they could stay. Another way of looking at it is to consider that once refugees have leave to work they are actually adding something valuable to this country and unlike "homegrown" workers we have not had to nurture or educate them. I think it's sad that there is such a misunderstanding, spread by racists in the main, I'm afraid, that refugees are coming here to "milk" our society. It really isn't true.

I did outreach work and worked both inside a jobcentre and seconded to an LA and I worked with several migrants and care-leavers, some of whom arrived in this country as unaccompanied minors - a very small percentage of those purporting to be under 18 clearly were over 18. However on the whole refugees, whatever route they took to gain entry to the UK are desperate people, lots of them were well educated and spoke English well. Please remember there is a huge difference between a refugee, an economic migrant and travelling romanies - we have all three in this country

I also have vast experience of working with people entering this country when Idi Amin threw them out of Uganda. Hundreds of them! I went into local high schools to talk to the kids, I interviewed people for jobs, I found jobs for people, I helped collect furniture and other basics for families who were moving into houses with nothing.

I visited them in their homes, ate with them, helped with form filling etc and made some friends who I am still in touch with today over 50 years later!

The difference is almost all of them held British passports and came here legally. They were well educated and many had professional jobs in Uganda. They literally came with a suitcase and a few quid, everything else was stolen from them before they left. They certainly could not have found sums like 15,000 € to pay people smugglers. As they had passports and ID and qualification records they were able to find work fairly soon AND we knew who they were and something about their backgrounds.

Ugandan Asians are some of the most successful business people in this country and worked hard from the day they set foot here.

None of this has anything to do with the Home Office painting over murals designed to cheer up a centre, the purpose of which is to receive unaccompanied child asylum seekers.

What you describe in your post is a failure of the British Government to deal with asylum seekers arriving here.

Yes, I have friends who arrived here from Uganda, some with their families, and one dear friend who arrived on his own.

They've all contributed immensely to this country in many ways.

Who pays the smugglers? Someone is responsible.

None of this has anything to do with the Home Office painting over murals designed to cheer up a centre, the purpose of which is to receive unaccompanied child asylum seekers.

ixion you will also be delighted to know that lots of info is on separate excel spreadsheets too - downloadable but hard to cross reference.

Nannashirlz

I think media aren’t reporting it correctly because anything to bash the tories they will do no doubt the truth will come out soon because I’m sure he’s got kids and wouldn’t do that but as others have said staff painted it over and maybe they thought Micky being black was racist 🤣 who knows how ppl think nowadays

You’re joking

Callisetc. Not smack his smarmy silly face? Oh dear. Reminds me of the T shirt I saw on the mother of 5 under 7’s
“I may have the look of a placid kind mother on my face but inside I’ve smacked three of you already “

Mallin

Callisetc. Not smack his smarmy silly face? Oh dear. Reminds me of the T shirt I saw on the mother of 5 under 7’s
“I may have the look of a placid kind mother on my face but inside I’ve smacked three of you already “

I am a pacifist 😁

Callistemon21

None of this has anything to do with the Home Office painting over murals designed to cheer up a centre, the purpose of which is to receive unaccompanied child asylum seekers.

Yes it does because I am trying (as I believe is GSM) to reply to comments which suggest that people who think like us lack compassion and are unkind.

I believe in controlled immigration and believe until we sort out our own problems we should not be allowing thousands of boat people in who we know nothing about.

My son suggested that maybe the mural was painted over because Mickey Mouse should be wearing high heels and a dress and Minnie should be wearing trousers and a flat cap. 🤣

I absolutely agree. I don’t welcome people of any age arriving here without permission. They are coming from countries which are safe.

Not matter what you say or how you say it it still comes across to most people as something else.

I do believe you must find everyday life difficult and unhappy.

I loathe this ‘we are an island so people can only get here on small boats so let’s criminalise and humiliate them.
I don’t understand the suggestion refugees stay on the first ‘safe’ country they land in. Greece/Italy - you’re on your own. If these asylum seekers reach France - doubly on your own, just don’t try and get to the uk. We have jenrick and Braverman. Be afraid

Granniesunite

Not matter what you say or how you say it it still comes across to most people as something else.

I do believe you must find everyday life difficult and unhappy.

Me? What a strange comment. My life is good thanks.