Bonus Holes..as an alternative to a vagina.

Here's how things are going for the Vagina Monologues.

www.andreajames.com/photos/all-transgender-vagina-monologues/

www.buzzfeed.com/1demerith/performing-in-the-vagina-monologues-as-a-transgender-woman

It is a woman's charity, aiming to give health information to women. All women.

I don't even understand the logic - as adult humans, we know what most body parts are called, regardless of whether we've got one or not.

Biological men understand what a vagina is, and biological women know what a penis is.

A biological man, regardless of identifying, will not have the same medical issues as a biological woman.

A biological man does not need cervical smears, fibroid ops, hysterectomies or anything along those lines.

A biological woman will not need prostate tests, or need scans for any testicular swelling.

Surely, if someone considers themselves well balanced and intelligent enough to change gender, they can cope with body parts being given their long held and traditional names?

This country seems like a parallel universe at times..🙄

I think VS was saying that this was an option put forward for a particular group of trans people to use if they wished.

I don't believe the idea was to use it instead of "vagina" for anyone else!

I wonder which revolting specimen dreamed up that term ? Can’t be a human, surely? Must be a robot..

Nan Kate I think we know the answer to that one 😕

I agree Maddyone.

And who is this ‘Bonus’ for ?

Bonus hole or front hole? How damned condescending! It’s a vagina!

Women need to feel confident seeking medical treatment. Why should the medical term for vagina be changed to something misogynistic ? Trans people, like women, will be familiar with the complexities of discussing intimate details

Are we to dismiss the groups of women whose culture make these intimate examinations and discussions even more difficult. Women who were subject the female genital mutilation as children for example? They’re in physical and emotional need of effective support during pregnancy and childbirth. English may not be their first language, the may be expected to be chaperoned by a male relative.

DiamondLily

VioletSky

The actual context is trying to find a term trans men and non binary people feel comfortable using in order to help them feel confident seeking medical treatment.

But why accept a rational explanation when you can just get all angry about it, assign lots of untruths to the whole situation and use it as another stick to beat trans people with even though they aren't directly responsible anyway

The GC are creating their own distruction by pandering to what amounts to conspiracy theory nonsense and will eventually find no place to be heard an I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing when there are actual real issues that need to be resolved

That's why there is no place for me on these threads... I'm not interested in being swept up in hysteria and want resolutions to real issues...

So I don't really bother any more

But you are on here and bothering...😉

Your first sentence,

to make them feel confident seeking medical treatment

Trans are informed adults, they know the terminology to describe how they feel in the wrong body ergo they must also know the correct terminology for anatomy.

It’s not all about the trans community it is about women who have had vaginas since Eve, and should continue to have vaginas until the demise of the human race…

Iam64

There’s a tv prog I believe - the vagina monologues. I wonder if some poor, demented producer is considering a rebrand - bonus hole monologues?

Im so fed up with this nonsense

I have seen the stage production of The Vagina Monologues, I cried and laughed equally.

DiamondLily - that's a totally brilliant reaction to your hysterectomy .

My father says odd things all the time .

Once in the middle of a restaurant , he asked very loudly , what's an orgasm ?

I am convinced that I was conceived by immaculate conception .

VioletSky

The actual context is trying to find a term trans men and non binary people feel comfortable using in order to help them feel confident seeking medical treatment.

But why accept a rational explanation when you can just get all angry about it, assign lots of untruths to the whole situation and use it as another stick to beat trans people with even though they aren't directly responsible anyway

The GC are creating their own distruction by pandering to what amounts to conspiracy theory nonsense and will eventually find no place to be heard an I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing when there are actual real issues that need to be resolved

That's why there is no place for me on these threads... I'm not interested in being swept up in hysteria and want resolutions to real issues...

So I don't really bother any more

But you are on here and bothering...😉

There’s a tv prog I believe - the vagina monologues. I wonder if some poor, demented producer is considering a rebrand - bonus hole monologues?

Im so fed up with this nonsense

Esmay

More nonsense !

Here's a brilliant word for vagina - fun factory !

My father is really up tight and peculiar about things and that's what he called it the other day !

I'm with you. I needed a full hysterectomy at age 30, and a nurse came around, complete with sad/sympathetic voice/face on, to ask me if I felt I'd be traumatised by this....I just told her I was fine with the nursery going as long as they left the playground intact lol 😉

But, with this thread - I find the term "bonus hole" to be revolting.🥴

Any transman might want to feel like a man (all fine), but surely they have the intellectual and emotional wherewithal to still be able to address their biological female organ by its proper name? 🤔

More nonsense !

Here's a brilliant word for vagina - fun factory !

My father is really up tight and peculiar about things and that's what he called it the other day !

Lathyrus

It’s a vagina VS. Like a pancreas is a pancreas or an appendix is an appendix. It’s a medical term for a body part.

If you’ve got one that’s what you’ve got. No need for baby talk with adults surely.

Very succinctly put.
Besides, it's not a hole is it, more of a passage.

Why do people come onto threads to say they’re not going to bother coming onto the thread?🙄😂

It’s a vagina VS. Like a pancreas is a pancreas or an appendix is an appendix. It’s a medical term for a body part.

If you’ve got one that’s what you’ve got. No need for baby talk with adults surely.

GC people are doing fine VS. Dont you worry.
Another successful court case this week.

The actual context is trying to find a term trans men and non binary people feel comfortable using in order to help them feel confident seeking medical treatment.

But why accept a rational explanation when you can just get all angry about it, assign lots of untruths to the whole situation and use it as another stick to beat trans people with even though they aren't directly responsible anyway

The GC are creating their own distruction by pandering to what amounts to conspiracy theory nonsense and will eventually find no place to be heard an I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing when there are actual real issues that need to be resolved

That's why there is no place for me on these threads... I'm not interested in being swept up in hysteria and want resolutions to real issues...

So I don't really bother any more

So basically it’s not acceptable to use ‘vagina’ because it offends male to female transgender people. But it’s perfectly fine to offend natal women by suggesting that using this terminology is somehow wrong and offensive in itself. OK then.

And while we’re at it, why does the term ‘cis’ need to be applied as a prefix to either a man or woman whose gender identity corresponds to their sex assigned at birth ? They are men and women, no further explanation necessary.

Saying 'down there' if someone's embarrassed to use the correct terminology is one thing, referring to a vagina as a 'bonus hole' is something else entirely and has only been suggested to pander to the trans gender community.

I’m absolutely sickened. As I have said before we are living in an alternative universe. Yes spot on Auntieflo ‘The King’s New Clothes’ has now become a frightening reality.

A year or two back I had some sympathy for the trans community, but this has been totally demolished by the militant members.

As I regularly repeat on GN my much loved Women’s Institute has been infiltrated by the militant trans community and when I wrote to our governing body asking why as a democratic group we hadn’t been given an opportunity to vote, they replied if I wasn’t happy I could leave! Outrageous IMO.

I have signed the Women’s Institute Declaration online (anyone can vote and anonymously too) demanding a vote by members. We need 5,000 votes for a moratorium, we are currently on 2,888, we need more support.

I think we need to band together like our grandmother suffragettes did all those years ago or we will be living in a permanent trans world.

being brought up by my elderly grandmother she always said privates and when asking about my periods she always said, have you come on. i am not really bothered what people call it, most children grew up having names for it. telling a male neighbour/friend i had cancer again, instead of vulva cancer i just said it's down there, some people still get embarrassed saying vagina and vulva...don't know why, if you are female you know you have a vagina and a vulva so why get bothered about someone else using another name.

If were your GC's parent Spninnaker I'd be going in to the school and asking what on earth is going on.