BBC presenter allegations.

Wouldn’t it be great if Murdoch has got this completely wrong…

Channel 4 reporting now that the young person told The Sun last week his parents complaint wasn’t based in reality. I don’t know The Sun’s view on that

Galaxy

The trouble is it's not possible to discuss issues relating to the Beeb without someone shouting about anti beeb feeling and lack of critical thinking. I support the BBC but there have been a number of occasions where they have created a culture whch enabled inappropriate behaviour to thrive. The issues on dr who being a recent example.

I feel the same, Galaxy. I am very much in favour of a national but independent broadcaster which is not in the pay of advertisers, but it cannot be beyond criticism.

I also think that everyone is entitled to a private life, and sexual peccadillos should not be presented to the public for salacious reasons; but (and it's a big but) there are laws to protect young people for a reason, and nobody should be 'above' that.

NanaDada we will never agree on this, I know, but IMO the self-righteous hysteria is not coming from those who have posted that that they support an investigation into what has been alleged - which is not to say that I think that any names should have been suggested (and they haven't been on here).

Whatever the differences between the accounts of the mum and the child, the police should be able to see what actually happened and proceed as appropriate, which is as it should be. If there has been criminal activity then action should be taken, and if there hasn't there won't be. Young people (and whether or not they are deemed old enough for other things is not remotely relevant) deserve to be protected against their own immaturity as well as the ill intent of others.

Yes I would guess a world where you are adored and never challenged isnt healthy for anyone.
Do you mean the man locally to me who was arrested? It was filming a young person, no sex work involved as far as I know. The girl was 17, he was given a suspended prison sentence.
Sorry if I have answered the wrong question!

Iam64

Channel 4 reporting now that the young person told The Sun last week his parents complaint wasn’t based in reality. I don’t know The Sun’s view on that

I should imagine that The Sun’s lawyers would have been all over this.

What if any evidence did they provide the paper?

I am trying to believe that they had their child’s best interests at heart as opposed to a payout or five minutes of fame.

Whatever the outcome there will be no winners only losers in this.

Galaxy I meant the young women doing *ex work which parents approved of and bought a house working on the Internet.

what interested me is that info from the lawyers for the young man concerned said he contacted the Sun *before publication of the info from his mother and said it was not true

“Nothing to see here. Move along now please”.
It all seems bizarre.

Wyllow3

Galaxy I meant the young women doing *ex work which parents approved of and bought a house working on the Internet.

what interested me is that info from the lawyers for the young man concerned said he contacted the Sun *before publication of the *info from his mother and said it was not true*

Ahh, that was me who mentioned that - she's in her early 20s now, but was stripping when she was 18/19 and went onto OF soon after, as far as I know.

Doodledog

*So, will that affect the armchair detectives’ opinions?*

Your investigations and presentation of evidence from various sources suggest you are a bit of an 'armchair detective' yourself though, wouldn't you say? .

Not really. There is just so much information ( and misinformation) being shared on social media, then being repeated without people checking it out. I haven’t been trying to find the guilty party or the young person, I just find it interesting to see how the things reported in the media have become misquoted and misinterpreted. I’ve never thought that actually reading what other posters have written was ‘ investigating’ or‘ gathering evidence’, just wanting to see what others have to say.

Maybe it comes down to point of view, but I think that's all most of us have been doing.

Thanks blondie, I was confused there.

I don’t see *ex work as problem free. I accept any type of work is rarely problem free but whereas I sometimes felt stress at work, I didn’t live with the kind of anxieties the *ex workers I was involved with did.
I feel naive about Only Fans type sites, thanks BBC for information and analysis.
Social media has provided new opportunities for exploiters abd their victims

MayBee70

Wouldn’t it be great if Murdoch has got this completely wrong…

Yes, but I reckon he’s costed this in. They are content just to get at the bbc because they hate it so much.

See News Agents

Iam64

Channel 4 reporting now that the young person told The Sun last week his parents complaint wasn’t based in reality. I don’t know The Sun’s view on that

What a mess.

Blondiescot

Wyllow3

Galaxy I meant the young women doing *ex work which parents approved of and bought a house working on the Internet.

what interested me is that info from the lawyers for the young man concerned said he contacted the Sun *before publication of the *info from his mother and said it was not true*

Ahh, that was me who mentioned that - she's in her early 20s now, but was stripping when she was 18/19 and went onto OF soon after, as far as I know.

But you don't know.

Sorry DaisyAnneReturns - I'm confused by that, what is it you think I don't know?

Apparently the Police are no longer investigating and the teenager says the mother is spouting rubbish!

maddyone

Smileless2012

None of this should have been made public until someone's been charged.

I agree. I think the police are looking into it now.

Would that apply to the ex FM of Scotland her husband and the accountant.Questioned, RELEASED No charges!! Forensic tent in their garden and boxes of household goods including a kettle removed.!
Still folk on here accusing them of all sorts.

Well that's quite complex isnt it as presumably the same could apply to Johnson, there was much speculation prior to his lockdown fines, much speculation about well a range of allegations.

25Avalon

Apparently the Police are no longer investigating and the teenager says the mother is spouting rubbish!

To get back on topic to be specific 25Avalon it was the young mans lawyer:

Quote I player latest

"A lawyer representing the young person at the centre of the BBC presenter allegations has disputed their mother’s account of events
In a letter to the BBC, the lawyer says "the allegations reported in the Sun newspaper are rubbish"
It says the young person sent the newspaper a denial on Friday, but it proceeded to publish "their inappropriate article"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66147560

Further (same web ref)

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We can now bring you some more details from the letter sent to the BBC earlier by a lawyer representing the young person at the centre of these allegations.

The lawyer says that press reporting amounted to an invasion of privacy, and criticises both the Sun and the BBC for not contacting their client.

"Nobody from the Sun newspaper appears to have made any attempt to contact our client prior to the publication of the allegations on Friday 6 July,” the lawyer writes.

The lawyer also claims in the letter that the mother and the young person are estranged

So mother and offspring can now sort this out at home, which maybe they should have done before the mother decided to approach The Sun.

There's cases of real abuse and exploitation of young people - some, very young. This doesn't help their situations at all.

As Smileless2012 said, None of this should have been made public until someone's been charged.

There was me thinking that this young person would be further traumatised by all the media publicity, on top of being exploited... I must learn not to be so gullible.

However I didn't speculate on who the 'presenter' might have been (some appeared to know the identity) because I hate that kind of thing. My late ex was once the victim of similar speculation, he was entirely innocent, and it caused an awful lot of trauma and stress.

Look at all the social media speculation over the death of Nicola Bulley, the conspiracy theories, accusations of her partner's involvement... all the "something-doesn't-sit-right-with-me" comments, all the armchair detectives who were convinced there was a third-party - and some even physically visiting the crime scene.

I don't know if anyone on here remembers the 50s TV show, "Dragnet" and Sergeant Joe Friday's catch-phrase... all we want are the facts, ma'am, during police investigations. Quite.

Sounds like the two phone calls made by the unknown presenter to the young ‘person’ has worked then

BlueBelle

Sounds like the two phone calls made by the unknown presenter to the young ‘person’ has worked then

My thoughts exactly.

So mother and offspring can now sort this out at home
It has been reported on the news that the parents and the offspring are estranged.