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BBC presenter allegations.

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Kandinsky Sun 09-Jul-23 13:10:49

I know the last thread was taken down at the op’s request - but if anyone wants to continue discussing this major news item I’ve started this one.

MerylStreep Tue 11-Jul-23 16:20:15

Another young person has come forward with allegations about the presenter.

kircubbin2000 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:20:46

The presenter suffers badly from depression so he will probably use that as his excuse.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:23:16

MerylStreep

Another young person has come forward with allegations about the presenter.

Oh dear, it seems that this presenter needs help.

MerylStreep Tue 11-Jul-23 16:25:21

I was listening to a program called A Very British Cult.
The presenter asked the woman why she dad contacted this program.
Her reply if you want something fixed/investigated you don’t go the the police, you go to a journalist

Kate1949 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:26:19

The second person has (allegedly) said he felt threatened by the presenter .

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:30:46

Kate1949

The second person has (allegedly) said he felt threatened by the presenter .

BBC are using young person in their twenties they have not said he or she.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 16:32:05

GrannyGravy13

MerylStreep

Another young person has come forward with allegations about the presenter.

Oh dear, it seems that this presenter needs help.

Really? If you are not being ironic, that is a very charitable take on things, IMO.

I don’t understand how anyone can appear to be defending the presenter. He is over 60, very well known, married, and the boy was a barely legal vulnerable teenager at the start of this sorry tale. Now there are others coming forward (and there have been suggestions before today that the presenter has messaged several young boys on Twitter). It has also been reported that the man allegedly phoned the boy last week trying to get him to stop his mum reporting it. What part of any of this is morally acceptable?

This is nothing to do with salacious tittle tattle. People in these positions get away with what they do because there is so much victim-blaming and a refusal to challenge institutions and famous people. The parents may have gone about this in a cack-handed way, but how many of us would know what to do in the circumstances? It’s not the sort of situation many of us will have experienced, is it?

MerylStreep Tue 11-Jul-23 16:32:40

Kate1959
The person has allegedly said they have written evidence of the threats.
And still Tim, dim but nice hasn’t spoken to the presenter.

Anniebach Tue 11-Jul-23 16:38:58

I didn’t know threats had been made

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:40:03

Doodledog

GrannyGravy13

MerylStreep

Another young person has come forward with allegations about the presenter.

Oh dear, it seems that this presenter needs help.

Really? If you are not being ironic, that is a very charitable take on things, IMO.

I don’t understand how anyone can appear to be defending the presenter. He is over 60, very well known, married, and the boy was a barely legal vulnerable teenager at the start of this sorry tale. Now there are others coming forward (and there have been suggestions before today that the presenter has messaged several young boys on Twitter). It has also been reported that the man allegedly phoned the boy last week trying to get him to stop his mum reporting it. What part of any of this is morally acceptable?

This is nothing to do with salacious tittle tattle. People in these positions get away with what they do because there is so much victim-blaming and a refusal to challenge institutions and famous people. The parents may have gone about this in a cack-handed way, but how many of us would know what to do in the circumstances? It’s not the sort of situation many of us will have experienced, is it?

I wasn’t being ironic nor charitable Doodledog

If the unnamed presenter has allegedly had contact with two young adults for what appears to be sexual voyeurism in my lay persons opinion that is not what I would consider normal behaviour, and therefore he would need help of some kind.

I am in no way condoning the presenter’s behaviour.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:41:30

MerylStreep

Kate1959
The person has allegedly said they have written evidence of the threats.
And still Tim, dim but nice hasn’t spoken to the presenter.

BBC News Channel is reporting that it has seen the messages of the second young person and they are threatening and full of expletives

Kate1949 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:47:28

Yes* GrannyGravy* You are right they didn't say 'he'. My mistake.

tickingbird Tue 11-Jul-23 16:48:44

kircubbin2000

The presenter suffers badly from depression so he will probably use that as his excuse.

How do you know this?

I’ve been watching Wimbledon so missed this. Listening to the news now and it sounds pretty damning. If he wasn’t suffering from depression before he will be now!

eddiecat78 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:53:57

The thing that amazes me about all these "scandals" involving famous people is that, despite appearing to be intelligent, it doesn't seem to have occurred to them that they will be found out

JenniferEccles Tue 11-Jul-23 16:54:23

I was also wondering about the
‘he suffers from depression’ comment, when we don’t yet know for sure who he is.

Kate1949 Tue 11-Jul-23 16:55:10

If I am not mistaken tickingbird (and I may well be) some people will have Googled the person whose name is being suggested. This would tell you if they have any medical conditions.

JenniferEccles Tue 11-Jul-23 16:55:44

I’ve also been tied up with Wimbledon so am not up to date with developments in this story.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 16:59:54

So the presenter has been in contact with person 2, and not until later told him his real identity, meaning that the young person has a choice between keeping the secret or exposing himself to goodness knows what by way of exposure.

Are people still so keen to protect this man?

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 17:01:01

Sorry - my screenshots are from the BBC News app.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jul-23 17:02:25

Doodledog

So the presenter has been in contact with person 2, and not until later told him his real identity, meaning that the young person has a choice between keeping the secret or exposing himself to goodness knows what by way of exposure.

Are people still so keen to protect this man?

Who is protecting this man?

Certainly not me, I definitely think he needs help though.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 17:03:32

No, I didn't mean you grin. Or anyone in particular - I was speaking generally.

Maybe he will get help from a prison psychiatrist.

JenniferEccles Tue 11-Jul-23 17:04:07

Isn’t there an element of ‘oh no, surely not’ in this?

Anniebach Tue 11-Jul-23 17:06:54

Yes there is

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 17:07:34

JenniferEccles

Isn’t there an element of ‘oh no, surely not’ in this?

Do you mean because of the identity of the personality?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jul-23 17:07:38

Doodledog

No, I didn't mean you grin. Or anyone in particular - I was speaking generally.

Maybe he will get help from a prison psychiatrist.

I think the BBC are between the proverbial rock and a hard place with their lawyers scrabbling around amongst the employment and defamation laws to protect itself.