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BBC presenter allegations.

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Kandinsky Sun 09-Jul-23 13:10:49

I know the last thread was taken down at the op’s request - but if anyone wants to continue discussing this major news item I’ve started this one.

AGAA4 Tue 11-Jul-23 17:12:53

How long can this man's name be kept secret? Many at the BBC will know who "he who must not be named" is apart from those who watch the programmes and notice someone is missing.
It must also be hard on male colleagues who may be absent for other reasons.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 17:17:38

Yes, I suspect that he will be named very soon. As you say, it is not fair on others who may also be under suspicion.

tickingbird Tue 11-Jul-23 17:20:06

Doodledog

Maybe he will get help from a prison psychiatrist.

Why a prison? For a man in his position to be behaving as alleged on Twitter and dating apps and voluntarily revealing his identity there must be something wrong. Maybe a subconscious desire to be outed. However, this 2nd person is in his 20’s, from what I heard on the news, and, if true, regarding a threatening and expletive filled text, that won’t result in a prison sentence and nor should it.

tickingbird Tue 11-Jul-23 17:20:59

I think we all know who it is by now.

JenniferEccles Tue 11-Jul-23 17:21:41

Doodledog yes that’s what I meant.

Kate1949 Tue 11-Jul-23 17:23:55

It's very sad that these well respected, well paid people with families have to behave in this way. Naive I know.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jul-23 17:27:00

Kate1949

It's very sad that these well respected, well paid people with families have to behave in this way. Naive I know.

That’s exactly how I feel.

I always try to see the best in everyone and give people the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty, which can be problematic.

JenniferEccles Tue 11-Jul-23 17:27:15

We have to be so careful what we say don’t we? Understandably of course.
This thread has lasted and it would be a great shame if it was derailed by disclosing something we shouldn’t.

biglouis Tue 11-Jul-23 17:30:30

The young man is now 20. His mother alleges these incidents led him to become addicted to crack

Sounds like the "mum" has crawled out from under a stone for a bit of publicity about something that happened 3 years ago. I am always suspicious of such characters who run to the gutter press.

lemsip Tue 11-Jul-23 17:34:28

well, I think out of character behavior such as this needs a serious health check.. brain tumours sometimes cause a change in character and outrageous behavior I think.

MerylStreep Tue 11-Jul-23 17:36:03

JenniferEccles

I was also wondering about the
‘he suffers from depression’ comment, when we don’t yet know for sure who he is.

An awful lot of people Do know who it is and know that he has talked about his depression.

Galaxy Tue 11-Jul-23 17:42:14

I think I am going to set myself up in business providing advice to celebrities. I would offer insightful advice such as if you are really famous it's a bad idea to send threatening messages on a phone that can be traced back to you.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 17:45:10

He has been an idiot, but my sympathies are so far with the young people in the case. There may be more for all we know.

I don't think that paying people decades younger for explicit videos, threatening them, and using the fact that you can afford expensive lawyers to keep them quite is in any way acceptable, though. Depressed or not, if you (generic) or I did that we would get no sympathy, and wouldn't deserve any.

I am not the prudish type, and if this involved Mr Bloggs from Nowhere Important I would roll my eyes and think he was a fool, but not want to see him ruined. But this man would, in the course of his work, mix with children and vulnerable people, and he had a reputation as someone trustworthy. There are clear safeguarding issues here, as well as the moral ones. I would feel the same if he were a teacher or a Scout leader.

Anniebach Tue 11-Jul-23 17:48:39

Doodledog I Trust you have never or will ever volunteer for
The Samaritans.

Galaxy Tue 11-Jul-23 17:52:15

I would hope that any support service worth its salt would not condone threatening behaviour to others

Galaxy Tue 11-Jul-23 17:53:21

Is worth its salt an actual real phrase or have I just made that up. It looks odd.

Anniebach Tue 11-Jul-23 17:55:50

Galaxy no, not condone, or tell the caller - if your wealthy deal with it

Galaxy Tue 11-Jul-23 18:02:02

Yes wealthy or poor if you behave in this way there will be consequences.

Ailidh Tue 11-Jul-23 18:02:07

Galaxy

I would hope that any support service worth its salt would not condone threatening behaviour to others

www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/worth-ones-salt.html#?utm_content=cmp-true

Galaxy Tue 11-Jul-23 18:03:01

smile thanks. It looked odd written down.

Doodledog Tue 11-Jul-23 18:05:44

Anniebach

Doodledog I Trust you have never or will ever volunteer for
The Samaritans.

If I did, I would take the complaints of young people who fell prey to older men seriously. Would you?

Iam64 Tue 11-Jul-23 18:08:11

I’m sure you’d be a Good Samaritan Doodledog. Understanding safeguarding is a key part of the role

Anniebach Tue 11-Jul-23 18:08:39

There is no choice, you take what comes in without playing judge and jury , difficult for some

Iam64 Tue 11-Jul-23 18:12:49

. Understanding safeguarding doesn’t equal playing judge and jury.

tickingbird Tue 11-Jul-23 18:17:59

Doodledog

You sound pretty obsessed with safeguarding etc. There are no children involved as far as we know. This second person wasn’t selling images or videos and they are in their 20’s. They were on a dating site and they progressed to private messaging. They didn’t meet. The older man told him who he was (silly man). The younger person then went onto twitter and posted about this tv person he’d been chatting with and alluded he would name him. He then received the abusive text. Not good but the younger person behaved badly and the older one is in need of help in my opinion. According to the BBC this 2nd person hasn’t made any complaints to them or the police.

When you’re posting stick to facts and not what you imagine happened.