BBC presenter allegations.

Yes I agree with GSM too. And it doesnt negate the harm that has been done to others.
I have behaved poorly in a relationship, there were complex reasons why that was the case but that was no comfort to the person I hurt. And actually taking responsibility for actions is very important.

Iam64

I agree clinical depression is a serious illness. I also agree with germanshepherdsmum in not seeing it as an excuse for everything.

Yes.

Mental health seems to be an excuse for any unacceptable behaviour nowadays, *whether by a well known person or by somebody who becomes famous through committing a crime, or sports competitors not doing as well as they hoped.

In cases where your life is about to be ruined by publicity, whether over a criminal act or not, the impact might well reduce you to a mental breakdown or even contemplation of suicide.
If this has been going on for some time, the pressure would be immense. NB I’m not excusing whatever has gone on.
Speculation on the media even on GN can only add to the pressure. It’s unkind, and impacts the innocent as well as those accused as we saw in the case of Nicola Bulley and her family, but it will go on.

I hope Huw’s family get the privacy they have asked for, but I can already picture reporters parked outside the hospital, trying to sneak inside or interview staff.

Grammaretto

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

Why the hell should he have any such "stain"?

Having said that, I do seek to understand the complex vulnerabilities of several people here, that power can corrupt..

..and hate the Sun more than ever.

He seemed perfectly fine when he was commentating on the Queen’s funeral & the Royal wedding.
Plenty of people live perfectly normal lives whilst living with depression.
His life is ruined because he made seriously bad choices - not because he suffers with depression.

His life is ruined because he made seriously bad choices - not because he suffers with depression

I agree with that

He is not necessarily blaming the MHI for his behaviour.

The mess he’s got himself and poor wife and children in has no doubt caused the severe depression.

For all we know he may have tried to take his life.

He will apparently make a statement when he is well enough.

He is a devout Christian let’s hope his faith and a loving family help him through.

Kate1949

If Huw is ill, I hope he gets well. He will get the best care. I suffer with severe depression. It is hell. However, I agree with Doodledog that all too often celebrities cite mental health when they are found out as not being what they project on screen.

Thanks for understanding what I meant, Kate. If poor MH is used as an excuse for bad behaviour or as a reason not to take the consequences, it is a step back for those who suffer from it as their condition will become linked with that behaviour. If we accept that those suffering from depression can't help their behaviour will they ever be trusted as responsible adults?

This has nothing to do with not accepting MH as a serious issue, nor some nonsense about witchcraft. It is about making everyone responsible for their actions, and not allowing special pleading. I agree with GSM, Iam and others on that.

Of course it is sad for his wife and children, and for the young men involved in the case - I am certainly not taking any pleasure from this - but as Grammaretto says, he will be getting the best of treatment and care, which is probably not the case for people who are selling photos on Only Fans, who may also have MH issues.

I don't think this has been trial by media either. I do think that it was because the media picked up the story that it came to light, but that is not the same thing, and tbh I think it is for the best that it came out. If this happened as a result of an extended breakdown, who knows where it might have ended?

Finally, those speculating about the 'motives' of those of us with an interest in the case could not be wider of the mark, however high their horses may be, but they will never see that of course.

Huw will get the best care. The rest of us have to struggle on and fight for help, which is rarely forthcoming. Not that that's his fault of course.

DaisyAnneReturns

Grammaretto

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

Why the hell should he have any such "stain"?

Surely the public knowledge of his sleazy, and reprehensible -granted, not illegal - but by any standards immoral behaviour constitutes a stain on his character - what character he has left.

Germanshepherdsmum

Anniebach

Some cannot accept depression is a serious illness GSM

You and I know that it is Annie. Therefore I hate to see it used as an excuse or a shield. It is being found out that has caused him to be hospitalised and I don’t accept depression as an excuse for his behaviour. Depression doesn’t cause a married heterosexual man to indulge in this behaviour.

That’s what Dr David Starkey said on TV tonight. He said it was very similar to the Philip Schofield case and that Huw Edwards in his opinion was struggling with his sexuality. They hurried to shush him up. 🤫

His life is ruined because he made seriously bad choices - not because he suffers with depression

True. Kandinsky. He’s made some bad choices.
In days gone by it would have been explained as “withdrawing from public life, embarrassed by his/her/your actions being made public” even if the actions were not criminal. Do we know about that yet?
Now you aren’t allowed to withdraw from public life. People will be endlessly speculating about what you did. Photographers and members if the public will be waiting for you on street corners, or stalking you.
The same thing will probably happen to the person taking the money and supplying the photos.

There was no crime committed.

HW has suffered from mental health issues for decades.

The Sun has wound the British public up and set them going.

Murdoch’s agenda is to get at the bbc. We know that he wants it shut down.

It was obvious from the start, but people tried hard to make so much more of a sad situation.

The Sun is trash, as is so much if our media.

We deserve better.

Grammaretto

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

No amount of money can clear your conscience.

Agree Whitewave.

Now you aren’t allowed to withdraw from public life. People will be endlessly speculating about what you did. Photographers and members if the public will be waiting for you on street corners, or stalking you.
The same thing will probably happen to the person taking the money and supplying the photos.
You are right, Molly, and that is another area where there should be steps taken to make improvements. People should have a right to privacy if they are not harming others. It gets trickier when their living is earned by fame, of course, but there is a huge difference between what interests the public and what is in the public interest.

I’ve always liked Huw Edwards, but felt that there was a certain sadness about him. So difficult for all concerned, although the mother who reported it to the Sun has little sympathy from me. Why do that? I also feel that MH is often used as an excuse when improper behaviour comes to light.

Oh my God. Many of us are quite able to discuss the issues of men buying sexual images from much younger people without being influenced by the sun. I have been doing it for years. I presume people dont actually understand what site they are on.

I am also able to discuss the behaviour of certain papers with regards to young people, excitedly counting down to their 16th birthday for example, almost as if the issue has nothing to do with love of the BBC or hatred of the sun, but rather much more complex societal issues.

I feel very sorry for his family. He will be in hospital for the 'foreseeable future' according to his wife while they will have to deal with the backlash from what he has done.

Whitewavemark2

There was no crime committed.

HW has suffered from mental health issues for decades.

The Sun has wound the British public up and set them going.

Murdoch’s agenda is to get at the bbc. We know that he wants it shut down.

It was obvious from the start, but people tried hard to make so much more of a sad situation.

The Sun is trash, as is so much if our media.

We deserve better.

I do wonder whether to excessive prominence given to this story over the last week has been a deliberate diversion from the rightwing media who do not want public attention on the manifest failures of this appalling Tory government- chaos, corruption and gross incompetence.

Very poor economic record, failure to control decline in UK industry, education, and the NHS.,

Inability to deal ,with refugees humanely and efficiently, inability to resolve the tensions in Northern Ireland caused by Brexit, inability to provide decent housing, inability to address crime, inability to curb the excesses of the greedy capitalists who borrow to pay dividends to shareholders and obscenely high pay for executives rather than invest in infrastructure, while our rivers and beaches are drenched in sewage..

Surely these failures should be top of the nes agenda, not the misdemeanors of Huw Edwars?

AGAA4 I read there are 5 children aged between 18 and 24. Vicky Flind is reported as a tv editor/producer. Hopefully, they can give each other much needed support

Yes - but how often does this happen? Over and over and over again.

People fall for it every time.

Varian, you’re not the first to suggestthat the coverage has clouded media reporting of the awful state of our country as a result of poor government