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BBC presenter allegations.

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Kandinsky Sun 09-Jul-23 13:10:49

I know the last thread was taken down at the op’s request - but if anyone wants to continue discussing this major news item I’ve started this one.

Galaxy Wed 12-Jul-23 18:38:52

Yes thats what a discussion about the issues relating to the purchase of sexual services is like.

MayBee70 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:40:08

Someone on Facebook described how an interview with them by the Sun was totally fabricated but done in such a clever way that legally they were beyond reproach. And that that person has suffered ever since from the fact that no one believed that he didn’t say the things that The Sun reported.

Urmstongran Wed 12-Jul-23 18:40:14

This used to be known as a nervous breakdown. A clash between his public persona and his private activities. Whilst these were ‘under wraps’ Huw was stable. Then a seismic shock has taken him under. But he is a very wealthy man and will be extremely well looked after.

Enough now.
Time to move on.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 12-Jul-23 18:40:52

I don’t see depression as an excuse.
If this hadn’t been made public would he still be carrying on as before? Would he be in hospital?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:42:14

Urmstongran

This used to be known as a nervous breakdown. A clash between his public persona and his private activities. Whilst these were ‘under wraps’ Huw was stable. Then a seismic shock has taken him under. But he is a very wealthy man and will be extremely well looked after.

Enough now.
Time to move on.

👍 yes you are right.

DiamondLily Wed 12-Jul-23 18:43:02

DaisyAnneReturns

So we have been given a clear example of mankind not changing from the days when the beautiful girl was beaten out of the village because somebody swore they saw her use witchcraft to kill their cow. This would then be piled on by other villagers building the story from their imaginations.

I feel so sorry for Huw Edward's and equally his family. Seeing a loved one with severe depression is terrible and incredibly distressing.

I also feel very sorry for the young person at the centre of this. Their life has also been used by others to their own ends.

Hopefully we will now let those with the power to do so continue and complete their investigations.

To be fair, the young man's parents threw it all into the red top arena.

I can, perhaps, see why they have been estranged by their son.🙄

Time to let it be, and move on now.

Anniebach Wed 12-Jul-23 18:43:26

Some cannot accept depression is a serious illness GSM

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 12-Jul-23 18:44:04

Because none of us know quite why the mother of the first young person decided to approach The Sun, we are speculating based on what we think we probably would've done under the same circumstances Dickens

Most of you have been speculating all along Dickins and I have no doubt the Sun loved you for it. It really would be good if it stopped now until we a given more facts by those officially investigating this.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:45:03

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t see depression as an excuse.
If this hadn’t been made public would he still be carrying on as before? Would he be in hospital?

I have had a total breakdown and I agree with ug your private and public persona behaviour is entirely different. Do not assume my private behaviour involved sexual behaviour.

MayBee70 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:45:46

No matter what happens in my life the last thing I would do would be to approach The Sun for help.

Iam64 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:45:51

Galaxy

Might be a good idea as a society to look at the damage sites such as only fans do. We wail about the mental health of young people but do bugger all about looking at what the issues might be. There are of course complex power issues around paying for sexual services, it's why for example Hugh Grant was the purchaser rather than the provider.

Thanks Galaxy. I don’t share the view expressed by those ‘sone posters’ that men have always behaved badly around sex so we accept that as impossible to change.
Pornography used to be difficult to access, especially its extremes. Now it’s available on everyone’s smart phone. There’s no doubt it’s increasing pressure on young people to participate in sexual activity that is not the norm it’s presented as. I’ve never wanted to be slapped or strangled as part of sex yet it’s becoming normalised.

Schools and parents are doing their best but, it needs proactive government intervention.

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 12-Jul-23 18:46:20

DiamondLily

DaisyAnneReturns

So we have been given a clear example of mankind not changing from the days when the beautiful girl was beaten out of the village because somebody swore they saw her use witchcraft to kill their cow. This would then be piled on by other villagers building the story from their imaginations.

I feel so sorry for Huw Edward's and equally his family. Seeing a loved one with severe depression is terrible and incredibly distressing.

I also feel very sorry for the young person at the centre of this. Their life has also been used by others to their own ends.

Hopefully we will now let those with the power to do so continue and complete their investigations.

To be fair, the young man's parents threw it all into the red top arena.

I can, perhaps, see why they have been estranged by their son.🙄

Time to let it be, and move on now.

And so many of you wanted so desperately for it to be true. No one was forced to pick up another done and throw it

Kate1949 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:46:38

I agree with you GSM and I do see it as a serious illness as I have it and my sibling took his own life due to it.

Mandy74 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:46:50

Depression is / can be a serious illness. That’s true.
But Huw E is a wealthy man, who could have sought the best therapeutic help for himself?

Casdon Wed 12-Jul-23 18:47:15

He is not fabricating severe depression, he has been a sufferer for many years, it’s all documented.
www.theguardian.com/society/2021/dec/23/huw-edwards-tells-of-20-year-struggle-with-depression
It isn’t an excuse, but please don’t accuse him of fabricating an illness which has seen him take a number of periods off work over the years.

HousePlantQueen Wed 12-Jul-23 18:48:17

MayBee70

Someone on Facebook described how an interview with them by the Sun was totally fabricated but done in such a clever way that legally they were beyond reproach. And that that person has suffered ever since from the fact that no one believed that he didn’t say the things that The Sun reported.

I read that. It was a musician who had toured with the late Michael Hutchence. He said during his interview how sad he was at the death of a talented musician and friend. The published interview bore no resemblance to this, was so skewed that the interviewee was shunned within the music industry and suffered mentally. All in a day's work for the loathsome Murdoch.

Callistemon21 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:48:30

Galaxy

Might be a good idea as a society to look at the damage sites such as only fans do. We wail about the mental health of young people but do bugger all about looking at what the issues might be. There are of course complex power issues around paying for sexual services, it's why for example Hugh Grant was the purchaser rather than the provider.

Well said Galaxy 👏👏👏

As a society we are failing to protect young people.

Allsorts Wed 12-Jul-23 18:49:17

It’s disgraceful, this trial by media. I wouldn’t buy the paper.

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 12-Jul-23 18:50:28

Whitewavemark2

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t see depression as an excuse.
If this hadn’t been made public would he still be carrying on as before? Would he be in hospital?

I have had a total breakdown and I agree with ug your private and public persona behaviour is entirely different. Do not assume my private behaviour involved sexual behaviour.

Agree. You certainly cannot assume someone with depression would display inappropriate behaviour. The opposite, I would have thought.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:50:36

We do not question if someone has broken a limb if it’s in plaster.

Going by some of the comments on here there is still a stigma of disbelief around mental health.

Speaking from experience some folks mental health is extremely fragile, it doesn’t take a lot for a complete breakdown and the road back is long, difficult and can be full of setbacks.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 12-Jul-23 18:52:21

Anniebach

Some cannot accept depression is a serious illness GSM

You and I know that it is Annie. Therefore I hate to see it used as an excuse or a shield. It is being found out that has caused him to be hospitalised and I don’t accept depression as an excuse for his behaviour. Depression doesn’t cause a married heterosexual man to indulge in this behaviour.

dragonfly46 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:52:58

I think it is all very sad and feel for his wife and 5 children. No amount of money can compensate.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:53:39

dragonfly46

I think it is all very sad and feel for his wife and 5 children. No amount of money can compensate.

Exactly 👏

Grammaretto Wed 12-Jul-23 18:54:15

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

Iam64 Wed 12-Jul-23 18:57:19

I agree clinical depression is a serious illness. I also agree with germanshepherdsmum in not seeing it as an excuse for everything.