BBC presenter allegations.

No betrayal of trust for me, I so hope in time Huw can return to tv.

GSM, in a really good way, you never fail to surprise me.

Depends on your definition of ‘wrong’ doesn’t it?

Kate1949

Depends on your definition of 'wrong'.

Yours or GSMs. Either or both.

Kate1949

I don't need to provide proof DaisyAnne. I just said 'employees are saying.' I didn't say I believed it.

No, you didn't but I said I would still like to know, please.

Depends on your definition of 'wrong'.

Germanshepherdsmum

You do love talking of the tumbrel and the tricoteuses don’t you NanaDana?

Some of us are trying to come to terms with the reality behind the man who appeared on our screens to deliver the news each evening and commentated on important State events such as the late Queen’s death and funeral with such gravitas. He was a trusted figure. It has almost been a betrayal of trust. Had he not been outed he would be carrying on as usual. Now he has scurried off to hospital with a breakdown caused by the truth having been found out. Despicable.

GSM I am shocked. Where has there been any actual evidence he has done anything wrong?

David Yelland, who edited the paper from 1998 to 2003 and has since been critical of the tabloid press, tweeted: "The Sun inflicted terror on Huw despite no evidence of any criminal offence
“ This is no longer a BBC crisis, it is a crisis for the paper. Huw's privacy must now be respected. Social media also needs speedy reform ."
The Sun has said it has no plans to publish further allegations

No, having “dished the dirt” and published a sensationalised story unsubstantiated by the young man , and done the damage , they are stepping back and away from any responsibility?
My opinion of the gutter press could not sink any lower.

Thank you Kate.

Well said GSM

Galaxy

I know this is difficult Daisy but people can post where they like as long as they dont break the rules of the forum. I know some people have difficulties with this concept.

And I may question that post. Or are you suggesting I may not?

I don't need to provide proof DaisyAnne. I just said 'employees are saying.' I didn't say I believed it.

You do love talking of the tumbrel and the tricoteuses don’t you NanaDana?

Some of us are trying to come to terms with the reality behind the man who appeared on our screens to deliver the news each evening and commentated on important State events such as the late Queen’s death and funeral with such gravitas. He was a trusted figure. It has almost been a betrayal of trust. Had he not been outed he would be carrying on as usual. Now he has scurried off to hospital with a breakdown caused by the truth having been found out. Despicable.

DaisyAnneReturns

Doodledog

If your family were going through this sort of thing would you be logging onto GN to see what people were saying about it? Seriously?

How does that make unfounded alligations any better?

My post above should have quoted this from DAR.

I didn't say it would - not that (unlike you) I am speculating about the unfoundedness of anything. I am responding to the sanctimonious 'for the love of God let the family have some space' nonsense.

Where, exactly, are your 'facts' coming from? Have you made up a picture of a family huddled around Gransnet to see what people on here are saying about them? I'm sure you have no evidence for that, have you?

You are accusing others of inventing a scenario, when what we have done is chat about stories as reported in the News, whether or not they may prove to be verifiable in the end. I did suggest that they may be a cover for other things, but you rubbished that as 'fantastical' and 'amusing'.

You are now inventing a scenario of your own, which doesn't even have News stories behind it - it's all in your head. You are, presumably, doing it to make yourself seem 'kind' and take the moral high ground, but it doesn't wash. You have never missed a chance to have a dig on this thread, and for what? You don't think people should have been talking about a topic which has dominated the News for days? Well, I have news for you - that's what people do on the News forum.

And people can ask questions of a post

I know this is difficult Daisy but people can post where they like as long as they dont break the rules of the forum. I know some people have difficulties with this concept.

Kate1949

BBC employees and former employees are now saying they have received inappropriate messages from him.

And where is your proof that they a) said this and b) actually received such messages?

Dicken's you say "I've only given a personal opinion in general terms about the abuse of power, but not about this particular case.", but look at the thread you are doing it on.

There is much to be said about this subject but posting about it where you can easily be misinterpreted helps no one in the fight against abuse of power. Whether you want them to or not people will associate your comments with the OP. Why wouldn't they. I think you are being very disingenuous.

BBC employees and former employees are now saying they have received inappropriate messages from him.

Doodledog

If your family were going through this sort of thing would you be logging onto GN to see what people were saying about it? Seriously?

How does that make unfounded alligations any better?

Well said Dickens.

DaisyAnneReturns

Dickens

DaisyAnneReturns

Because none of us know quite why the mother of the first young person decided to approach The Sun, we are speculating based on what we think we probably would've done under the same circumstances Dickens

Most of you have been speculating all along Dickins and I have no doubt the Sun loved you for it. It really would be good if it stopped now until we a given more facts by those officially investigating this.

In fact, DaisyAnneReturns, my above comment about the young man's mother is the first and only comment I have personally made about her.

Additionally, I don't read The Sun. And haven't been tempted to do so since this story broke - any information I have about what that rag has published has been gleaned from other news outlets.

So "it would be really good" if you stopped making assumptions about me. Your underhand comment, "I have no doubt the Sun loved you for it" is deliberately provocative - and hectoring.

I have replied to other posts of yours that do not stand up.

All the information came from the Sun originally whether you read it or not. They did not produce one scintilla of evidence for any of it but you have not and do not question these illusory "facts".

All the information came from the Sun originally whether you read it or not. They did not produce one scintilla of evidence for any of it but you have not and do not question these illusory "facts".

I have no idea what you are talking about regarding posts of mine that "don't stand up" - I've only given a personal opinion in general terms about the abuse of power, but not about this particular case.

NOWHERE on this thread have I quoted ANY information from The Sun - or any other news outlet - as being FACTS - so would you please stop making these accusations?

Doodledog

If your family were going through this sort of thing would you be logging onto GN to see what people were saying about it? Seriously?

So sadly b****y predictable.

Doodledog

If your family were going through this sort of thing would you be logging onto GN to see what people were saying about it? Seriously?

If your husband were in hospital and your children were not living with you, or you were one of the children I’d imagine that yes, that is what you would be doing, whether it be Gransnet or any other social media site. Social media is where people get information from these days., and if you’re looking for a subject and type in some key words, Gransnet is one of the places that flags.