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Malnutrition in England

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jul-23 07:40:57

From 2022 to April 2023, 10,896 NHS patients — including 312 children — were hospitalised with the condition in England, as a result of the crises in the cost of living.

Scurvy and rickets have returned that were so prevalent in Victorian Britain, which were recognises diseases of poverty.

Surely there must now be a case for free school meals and midday milk?

Norah Fri 14-Jul-23 21:30:24

ronib

Just to be clear polenta certainly didn’t make my dad fat. He maintained a perfect bmi all his very long life.

As do we have slim weight.

However, I was told, another thread, I may not say such!

You prompted me grin.

ronib Fri 14-Jul-23 21:26:51

Just to be clear polenta certainly didn’t make my dad fat. He maintained a perfect bmi all his very long life.

growstuff Fri 14-Jul-23 21:25:12

Norah

Quote: "In fact, the UK government recommends that about half of your energy should come from carbs, particularly fibre-rich carbs."

We need energy (carbs) to move, run, dog walk, to live.

However, others may feel differently and do as they wish or their body prefers - I'm not advocating FOR any particular foods, I merely said what we love and eat quite often. I love carbs, I exercise.

No Norah that's not what diabetics should eat. They need to limit carbs.

Protein and fat also provide energy.

That's not an opinion - it's a fact. I'm well aware of what you eat - you love telling everybody about it, but maybe you should accept that other people aren't like you. I'd die an early death if I ate what you do.

PS. I exercise too.

Norah Fri 14-Jul-23 21:20:35

ronib

Doodledog Jamie Oliver was serving polenta chips in his upmarket restaurants for awhile. They were great.

Ohhhh fun, I'll look for a recipe! Thanks.

growstuff Fri 14-Jul-23 21:19:54

icanhandthemback

^I assume we all eat polenta, no?^

Yuck no, it is truly disgusting stuff! I'm also a diabetic so carbs are not for me in great quantities. Carbs turn to sugars so unless I am looking to a slow suicide, I don't want them.

Same here! I get nearly all my carbs from veg and dairy - and I keep my blood glucose under control.

One of the reasons there's an obesity crisis is because cheaper foods tend to be carb-rich (and therefore energy/calorie dense), without providing other essential nutrients.

Norah Fri 14-Jul-23 21:19:31

Quote: "In fact, the UK government recommends that about half of your energy should come from carbs, particularly fibre-rich carbs."

We need energy (carbs) to move, run, dog walk, to live.

However, others may feel differently and do as they wish or their body prefers - I'm not advocating FOR any particular foods, I merely said what we love and eat quite often. I love carbs, I exercise.

ronib Fri 14-Jul-23 21:03:54

Doodledog yes you are right - I was talking about my dad.

Doodledog Fri 14-Jul-23 21:00:43

growstuff

PS. I don't have stroppy attitude!!! I've been diabetic for 30 years and I control it by avoiding carbs. It's not some faddy diet - it's a way of eating to keep me well.

I think ronib was talking about her dad, not you.

I haven't tried sweet polenta, but I do like it savoury.

ronib Fri 14-Jul-23 21:00:35

Doodledog Jamie Oliver was serving polenta chips in his upmarket restaurants for awhile. They were great.

Doodledog Fri 14-Jul-23 20:57:53

ronib

Doodledog polenta can be cooked in a large pot with boiling water and constant stirring. It erupts like a mini volcano. It’s poured out onto a slab left to cool and then sliced. Not too sure about ratio of water and polenta but it was a childhood experience.

Yes, I cook it quite often. The 'instant' stuff isn't as bad for scalding as the type that was available when my children were young grin. It's not really instant like Smash, and you do have to stir it for quite a while, but it's a lot better than the old type.

It has the advantage over the packs as you can add cheese and other flavourings before cooling and slicing it.

icanhandthemback Fri 14-Jul-23 20:51:08

I assume we all eat polenta, no?

Yuck no, it is truly disgusting stuff! I'm also a diabetic so carbs are not for me in great quantities. Carbs turn to sugars so unless I am looking to a slow suicide, I don't want them.

growstuff Fri 14-Jul-23 20:48:39

PS. I don't have stroppy attitude!!! I've been diabetic for 30 years and I control it by avoiding carbs. It's not some faddy diet - it's a way of eating to keep me well.

growstuff Fri 14-Jul-23 20:46:20

Norah

Polenta is the rices, potatoes, pastas -- the great carbs of a meal.

I always serve (to non-dieters) main-protein, carb, veg, salad, fruit, bread, dessert, liquid. I vary menus, but not often numbers of dishes/sides.

Norah Have you any idea about diabetes? The body doesn't actually need carbs.

growstuff Fri 14-Jul-23 20:45:09

Raisins/dried fruit? Even more carbs!

growstuff Fri 14-Jul-23 20:44:28

Callistemon21

I was thinking as a porridge?
Some of us can't eat wheat or oats.

If you're looking for something for breakfast, I'd stick to eggs and yoghurt with fruit and nuts.

growstuff Fri 14-Jul-23 20:43:23

Norah

Of course it's mostly carbs - it's just corn/maise.

Still delicious, as are grits in Alabama USA and corn on cob.

Exactly! And as a diabetic I control carbs very strictly.

You obviously love the stuff - I don't. In fact, I dislike most grains.

Nobody is going to solve problems of malnutrition with polenta.

Jaxjacky Fri 14-Jul-23 20:25:25

growstuff

I've had polenta once. I thought it was revolting and it's full of carbs and nothing much else.

I agrée with you growstuff I can think of other carbs I’d much rather eat.

Norah Fri 14-Jul-23 20:15:29

Callistemon21

I was thinking as a porridge?
Some of us can't eat wheat or oats.

Rice pudding for breakfast?

I make with coconut milk, sugars, spices, maybe raisins/dried fruit - GC and GGC love it as does my husband and a few of his workers whom I feed (some don't prefer rice, of course).

Norah Fri 14-Jul-23 19:58:24

Polenta is the rices, potatoes, pastas -- the great carbs of a meal.

I always serve (to non-dieters) main-protein, carb, veg, salad, fruit, bread, dessert, liquid. I vary menus, but not often numbers of dishes/sides.

ronib Fri 14-Jul-23 19:54:14

Doodledog polenta can be cooked in a large pot with boiling water and constant stirring. It erupts like a mini volcano. It’s poured out onto a slab left to cool and then sliced. Not too sure about ratio of water and polenta but it was a childhood experience.

Norah Fri 14-Jul-23 19:53:45

Doodledog

I like polenta, and do cook with it, but to make it tasty you have to add cheese or butter along with the veg (or meat), so it's not really a health food - or not the way I eat it, anyway. I sometimes have it as a pie topping instead of mashed potato.

You used to be able to get it in blocks, ready made, and could cut the block into chips for baking or grilling. My children liked those as finger food when they were babies, but I haven't seen the blocks for years now. You can cook it and cool it, then cut it up and bake/grill it though.

I've not seen the blocks or tubes outside Italy in a long while. But cooked with herbs/cooled in a flat container is same. Our GC love it!

Doodledog Fri 14-Jul-23 19:46:49

I like polenta, and do cook with it, but to make it tasty you have to add cheese or butter along with the veg (or meat), so it's not really a health food - or not the way I eat it, anyway. I sometimes have it as a pie topping instead of mashed potato.

You used to be able to get it in blocks, ready made, and could cut the block into chips for baking or grilling. My children liked those as finger food when they were babies, but I haven't seen the blocks for years now. You can cook it and cool it, then cut it up and bake/grill it though.

Norah Fri 14-Jul-23 19:43:59

ronib

Growstuff it’s not complete in itself - the sauces provide additional nutrients! Obviously never been introduced to it properly…. It kept my dad alive until nearly 91. Then he did have a stroppy attitude and never thought the State would provide!

Great as mushroom tomato lentil 'mix' on polenta bed.

ronib Fri 14-Jul-23 19:39:31

Growstuff it’s not complete in itself - the sauces provide additional nutrients! Obviously never been introduced to it properly…. It kept my dad alive until nearly 91. Then he did have a stroppy attitude and never thought the State would provide!

Norah Fri 14-Jul-23 19:38:54

Of course it's mostly carbs - it's just corn/maise.

Still delicious, as are grits in Alabama USA and corn on cob.