Lee Anderson, Conservative deputy chair says asylum seekers should ‘fuck off back to France’ if they don’t want to be housed on the Bobby Stockholm barge

It doesn't suit the government/Lee Anderson's agenda to refer to the 61% genuine seekers, does it?

Primrose, you say,

"Because they are just out for themselves! They leave their women and children to get on with it.

If you were a male and you had family and you were genuinely in fear for your lives in your home country, would you just clear off and leave them behind? I’ll just leave that there!"

You do clear off if your life is in danger and then try to bring your family over...... would you prefer if you were a wife your husband be killed or imprisoned or that he reaches safety and seeks to re unite the family?

The problem is that a lot of people can’t face up to the fact that the majority of these people are genuine asylum seekers and own a responsibility for helping them make new lives. It’s far easier and dare I say for some more fun to rant as if they were a sub human species who deserved no help from the richest nations of the world. It stinks, it really does.

It's not the reason why he swore that's the issue here. It's the fact that a politician resorted to using foul language to express himself. To me it's just not acceptable and he should be sacked.

Wyllow3

Should say, some of the young men - we had just yesterday the man seeking asylum genuinely who had come in by plane being ordered the barge.

I would delete ordered to the barge and insert provided with clean safe accommodation, health care, gym, tv room and 24 hour a day catering. Oh and a safe environment with free transport to and from various holiday resorts that 1,000’s of U.K. citizens cannot afford.

100 times better than what he had fled from…

And the Afghans who undoubtedly helped our troops in untold ways. Saving many lives of British troops in the process.

Would you say thank you, but you are undeserving of our gratitude and help if you ever turn up on our shores? Or would you stick them in the barge in the hope that the country would forget their existence.

A great deal of unpleasant name-calling, but I have yet to come across anyone who supports mass migration with a workable solution for housing these illegal migrants.

Anderson (and Braverman) are in place so the Tories can appeal to uneducated, right wing and racist voters. He is a disgrace to the Tory Party and should be dismissed. Much is made of the fitness of young men in boats: the reason is that mostly only fit individuals can make the perilous journey from distant countries to the Channel given all the hazards if the journey. The reason for this is the Tories have avoided creating safe and legal routes, preferring to stir up racist feeling rather than provide sanctuary, especially for Afghans who risked their lives to support British soldiers and for women attacked by the Taliban regime. The attack on Lefty and 'crooked' lawyers is yet another tactic for stirring up ill feeling. Rwanda is an unworkable scheme and Ascension Island is another diversionary tactic.

Sigh. No of course I don't support mass migration, but if measures were taken as suggested above we wouldn't have it.

Attack the smugglers - provide asylum points in other countries - process people quickly then they can be deported quickly.

How many times is it necessary to point out these ideas, or point out they are NOT all young male economic migrants!

Primrose53

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Urmstongran

But but ... Why Are these Asylum Seekers all Fit Young Men?

Anyone?

Explanation is here.
www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/five-explanations-to-why-the-majority-of-refugees/

An 8 year old link - great!🤣🤣

She has obviously never seen the boats arriving in Dover FULL to the brim with young, fit men.

Just for you personally Primrose53. I suspect these people know a great deal more about it than you do.
care4calais.org/the-refugee-crisis/why-are-there-more-men-in-calais/#:~:text=People%20trafficking%2C%20sexual%20abuse%2C%20exploitation,best%20to%20protect%20their%20families.

Whitewavemark2

And the Afghans who undoubtedly helped our troops in untold ways. Saving many lives of British troops in the process.

Would you say thank you, but you are undeserving of our gratitude and help if you ever turn up on our shores? Or would you stick them in the barge in the hope that the country would forget their existence.

The majority Afghan families who helped the U.K. have been rehoused out of the hotels they were temporarily staying in according to Government sources.

Whitewavemark2

It speaks volumes that the bigots simply choose to ignore the fact that the only people we have heard from on the barge are Afghans - people who we were assured would be given safe passage and cared for on arrival.

We cannot take every person who wants to come to the UK. Even if they’re from Afghanistan we can’t take them all. We can’t put the wrongs of the whole world to rights by accommodating them here in the UK.
I’m fed up off it along with most of the rest of the country. I can’t even be bothered to list the reasons, I’ve done it before. The whole situation is beyond ludicrous and with a Labour government in the future, it will simply get worse.

eazybee

A great deal of unpleasant name-calling, but I have yet to come across anyone who supports mass migration with a workable solution for housing these illegal migrants.

Then you haven’t been reading much about it.

The answer is easy enough for an infant to understand, but the Tories have no vested interest in solving the issue as long as they can weaponise it in order to achieve two major issues.

The first is to take voters attention away from everything they have not achieved.

Second - in the hope that the hard of thinking will be convinced enough to vote Tory.

I’m not sure that this strategy is working😄😄😄

Whitewavemark2

It speaks volumes that the bigots simply choose to ignore the fact that the only people we have heard from on the barge are Afghans - people who we were assured would be given safe passage and cared for on arrival.

They are being cared for Whitewavemark2 a darn lot better than some of the elderly and vulnerable U.K. citizens at the moment.

How many times have we seen the elderly unable to hear their homes, frightened to use their cookers to cook a hot meal due to energy costs?

The refugees are getting a safe environment with a multitude of extras…

Whitewavemark2 Not just The Tories the Labour Party have not ruled out using barges and barracks to house refugees/asylum seekers.

There is a serious shortage of carers for the elderly and disabled,

Whoah! Granantow right there.

The reason for this is the Tories have avoided creating safe and legal routes, preferring to stir up racist feeling rather than provide sanctuary, especially for Afghans who risked their lives to support British soldiers and for women attacked by the Taliban regime

The UK is a compassionate country which I am proud of. Since 2015 around 500,000 genuine migrants have been given refuge here, through legal channels too!

What is happening now with the dinghies is altogether another matter in my opinion. And of many others. Lee Anderson for one. His frustration was patently evident.

Apologies Grantanow I spelt your moniker incorrectly.
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Well, well Channel 5 Jeremy Vine show just now and just about every caller agreed with Lee Anderson! 👏👏

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

And the Afghans who undoubtedly helped our troops in untold ways. Saving many lives of British troops in the process.

Would you say thank you, but you are undeserving of our gratitude and help if you ever turn up on our shores? Or would you stick them in the barge in the hope that the country would forget their existence.

The majority Afghan families who helped the U.K. have been rehoused out of the hotels they were temporarily staying in according to Government sources.

And the afghans in the barge?

Whitewavemark2 do you know that they helped U.K. Forces, or are they just fleeing the Taliban’s brutal regime?

Looking at the accommodation on the Bibby it’s a lot better than the majority of U.K. boarding schools (with a few exceptions Eton, Rugby etc)

Would you rather they be in a Hotel, Barracks or like my DH’s friend have two in your home?

Do you want these young men caring for you Annie?

The good thing as far as I am concerned is that the opinion reflected on this site is not a reflection of the country as a whole.

You gov August 8th..

Should Britain allow people fleeing persecution or war in other countries to come and live in Britain?

62% say that we should allow more or the present number into the country.

17% less

13% don’t know

9% none.

It heartens me to understand that what I see on this thread does not remotely reflect what people think in the U.K., and bears out what I hear amongst friends and family.

I have friends who are actively involved in helping refugees and what they see and hear makes you weep.

No poll is accurate unless every person in the UK is questioned, which of course is impossible. There will be wildly differing views amongst different groups of people and those in different areas.

I am so tired of hearing that these people are fleeing war and persecution. They stopped fleeing when they reached a safe country.

Germanshepherdsmum

No poll is accurate unless every person in the UK is questioned, which of course is impossible. There will be wildly differing views amongst different groups of people and those in different areas.

I am so tired of hearing that these people are fleeing war and persecution. They stopped fleeing when they reached a safe country.

So they should all stay in Italy or Greece if you follow that logic through - seriously?

Shocking that this is in broad daylight, where are the French border force that the U.K. has given millions to provide?
They are not at the ferry ports checking, that's for sure. One man in a yellow jacket with a dog walks up and down the cars, caravans and coaches, and asks, " 'Ave you any immigrés wiz you? " (I'm not making fun here - just showing he is French.)
And one of the poor dog's paws were burning in the blazing June heatwave walking up and down the lanes. 😡