An election looms, so I think it is time to look at all the success over the 13 years that we have witnessed from the government.

Urmstongran

You’d surely all have to agree that a democratic vote (by those who could be bothered) such as the referendum was, needed to be honoured?

Referendums in the UK are advisory to the government of the day. It was Cameron who made the pledge based on no amendment to that fact which confused the issue. Parliament was quite right to debate the matter. We don't send MPs to the Commons as delegates. They are representatives intended to exercise their judgment. The advice from the referendum was quite finely divided and any legislative body should spend time debating the consequences of taking action on such an outcome. In this case the outcome has been disastrous for the UK as increasing numbers of voters are recognising. Cameron and the Johnsonite Tories made a serious mistake which was compounded by the Truss factor.

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Vaccine was developed by scientists from many different country just based here and I’d say the swift roll out was due to our amazing NHS and literally thousands of volunteers, including those who helped test it. Yes , well done Johnson for releasing the necessary funds and for taking ALL the credit !

I have never seen such a load of negativity from this site and would ask those of you who seem depressed to step up and not use it to cover up for your own inadequacies.
I am not wealthy but can see some very positive ways forwards that this government are making.
It might cheer you up if you look under the stones.

PS no “referendum” had to be “honoured” as it was an advisory vote that Cameron badly misjudged as to the outcome, and I, & many others, are yet to see tangible benefits or massive trade deals

CaroleAnne

You say we are negative, most of us would say we are realists, please could you list the many positive ways forward Tories have made in the last 13 years

For the poster criticising Blair and his unlawful war, yes you’re correct, but he’s hardly representative of “real” labour and I’d say until this govt he was possibly one of the most corrupt PMs we’ve had.

Record School Budgets which still don’t “buy” much, and this final salary offer to teachers still isn’t fully funded meaning schools will have to fund out of existing budgets and teachers, along with some junior doctors and nurses are still earning derisory salaries and many thousands have left their professions or are seeking work abroad !

CaroleAnne

I have never seen such a load of negativity from this site and would ask those of you who seem depressed to step up and not use it to cover up for your own inadequacies.
I am not wealthy but can see some very positive ways forwards that this government are making.
It might cheer you up if you look under the stones.

The negativity on this site reflects the mood of the country CaroleAnne. The people who are standing up to say what they think of the way the country is being run aren’t the ones with the inadequacies. Just look at any facts produced about what’s happening, look at the polls, and read between the lines as well as the facts presented by the right wing press. It’s all there in plain sight.

Cossy

For the poster criticising Blair and his unlawful war, yes you’re correct, but he’s hardly representative of “real” labour and I’d say until this govt he was possibly one of the most corrupt PMs we’ve had.

Record School Budgets which still don’t “buy” much, and this final salary offer to teachers still isn’t fully funded meaning schools will have to fund out of existing budgets and teachers, along with some junior doctors and nurses are still earning derisory salaries and many thousands have left their professions or are seeking work abroad !

The war wasn’t unlawful. It was voted for by parliament and I believe that Blair took us into the war believing he was doing the right thing. Sad am Hussein was a murdering tyrant who was slaughtering his own people and was capable of anything. Which doesn’t mean to say that, in retrospect, it was the right thing to do, but you can only act in the information you have at the time: hindsight etc etc. I don’t see how Blair could be described as a corrupt politician: could you provide some facts to corroborate that please?

Triple lock pensions - brought in under Cons/Lib Dem coalition.

Haven’t the government been trying to remove the triple lock but haven’t been able to because it was in their manifesto?

CaroleAnne

I have never seen such a load of negativity from this site and would ask those of you who seem depressed to step up and not use it to cover up for your own inadequacies.
I am not wealthy but can see some very positive ways forwards that this government are making.
It might cheer you up if you look under the stones.

Why does telling the truth become "such a load of negativity", in your head Carol Anne?

Rather than attacking other posters, some of whom obviously do feel negative about this government's 13 years, you have plenty of opportunity to tell us what good things have happened, or why the things being described haven't had a negative outcome.

Just like everyone else you are free to put a negative or a positive point of view or even something in the middle.

twinnytwin

Triple lock pensions - brought in under Cons/Lib Dem coalition.

Wasn't the pension plan put together before the Parliament was elected, by the Liberal Democrats?

Wasn't this plan one of the leading promises that they kept, when they were forced to give up others?

CaroleAnne

I have never seen such a load of negativity from this site and would ask those of you who seem depressed to step up and not use it to cover up for your own inadequacies.
I am not wealthy but can see some very positive ways forwards that this government are making.
It might cheer you up if you look under the stones.

Well, this thread was started so that tory supporters could showcase the tory achievements of the past 13 years.

A splendid opportunity for you to detail all these positive ways forward, isn't it?

I'm sure that many of us are all ears...

MayBee70

Haven’t the government been trying to remove the triple lock but haven’t been able to because it was in their manifesto?

They have.
inews.co.uk/news/politics/triple-lock-no-10-pledge-state-pension-guarantee-spending-concerns-2441093

But they haven't got rid of it - so surely it can be counted as a positive thing.

Urmstongran

Getting Brexit Done.
Sorry, but yes it was important to me that the result of the referendum were respected, despite many in the HoC trying to thwart it with their myriad ‘indicative votes’. We were stymied until Boris got elected. Mind you he squandered that stinking 80 seat majority - in part due to Covid. Then the war in the Ukraine. But hey - we ARE out. Massive plus for me.

Really! Brexit was a disaster as a concept and has been a disaster since! I am still beyond angry that I have been forced to give up my many rights as an EU citizen for the Little Englanders!
If I could afford to move to another country I would go like a shot. This country thanks to the Tories and Brexit is a walking catastrophe!

twinnytwin

But they haven't got rid of it - so surely it can be counted as a positive thing.

Yes, there was cross party support, I think it’s something that would have been introduced whoever was in charge - and Labour have said it will be in their manifesto. It was suspended in 2022/23 though.

I’m very middle of the road when it comes to politics. I simply hope for what is best for the majority.
I would say one thing which you won’t like. The Tory party has prevented the Labour Party from being in power. We need to think of the reasons for this. One reason of course is Jeremy Corbyn but there are many others.

Glad you are middle of the road😄😄😄😄

MaizieD

CaroleAnne

I have never seen such a load of negativity from this site and would ask those of you who seem depressed to step up and not use it to cover up for your own inadequacies.
I am not wealthy but can see some very positive ways forwards that this government are making.
It might cheer you up if you look under the stones.

Well, this thread was started so that tory supporters could showcase the tory achievements of the past 13 years.

A splendid opportunity for you to detail all these positive ways forward, isn't it?

I'm sure that many of us are all ears...

You are joking I take it? This thread was started by a left wing poster for completely different reasons as I stated from the off.
CarolAnne don’t worry most of us Labour supporters are not like that at all and tho I want to see Keir Starmer in the number ten hot seat am not so partisan that I think all this Tory govt does is bad and everything Labour will do is wonderful beyond belief. For quite a long time after the next election and change of govt nothing much will be able to change.Coming after the pandemic and the effect on the economy came the war in Ukraine and worldwide energy price hikes affecting food and utilities.Keeping people and firms afloat during Covid years and helping people with money towards the rising gas/ electricity prices not to mention the six million quid a day towards illegal migrants won’t be easy to bounce back from.
Most people don’t spend their lives being miserable tho, it’s just a few on social media that seem to glory in it.
My Mum has a saying that fits ‘it’s being so cheerful as keeps ‘em going’ 😂

Would that be the "worldwide energy hikes" that are making BILLIONS in profits for the shareholders? ITS THE TORY WAY,cash only flows upstream while the rest of the people sink in poverty .
What HAS happened to Dido HARDINGS BILLION £ windfall or Michelle Mone and her nice new yacht?
You know the story ....never trust a tory ...selfservatives one and all

Does that apply also to those of us who vote Conservative?

Yeah paddyann54 that would be the same energy hikes.They probably are making money for the shareholders but that doesn’t affect worldwide energy prices which go up when energy gets scarcer.That isn’t caused by govt, you do know that?
As for Dido Harding and Michelle Mone, if you have beef then start a new thread.

I think many Scottish voters are regretting trusting Nichola Sturgeon and husband.