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Re-negotiate the Dublin Agreement and provide safe passage

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 13-Aug-23 15:33:03

Aveline

Really? So are they responsible for all the upheavals, wars, droughts and economic problems faced by countries in the middle East, Europe and Africa? that are leading all these people to UK. It's a far more nuanced situation than just blaming the Tories.

No of course not.

But they are responsible for the total failure in their dealing with the situation. They always had the answer in their hands but through sheer incompetence and ideological dogma they have failed.

paddyann54 Sun 13-Aug-23 15:18:12

Surely even the tories should have services in place,working efficiently to "process" the migrant claims....or are you absolving tories from their incompetence in almost everything they touch.I discount the vast sums of cash given to their mates of course...that wasn't a mistake .Thats the tory way!

Aveline Sun 13-Aug-23 15:12:34

Really? So are they responsible for all the upheavals, wars, droughts and economic problems faced by countries in the middle East, Europe and Africa? that are leading all these people to UK. It's a far more nuanced situation than just blaming the Tories.

Vintagewhine Sun 13-Aug-23 15:07:03

As the Tories have been in govt for 13 years it's hard to find anyone else to blame.

Aveline Sun 13-Aug-23 13:57:58

Of course. It's all the Tories fault. hmm

Whitewavemark2 Sun 13-Aug-23 13:09:38

DiamondLily

Well, according to WiKi, so not sure if it's right, the Dublin agreement seemed to be about claiming asylum in the first EU country arrived at:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation

I assume you post was to fancythat

And yes that is the point of the Dublin agreement - it was always on the table and if we’d reached an agreement this problem simply would never have happened.

But Johnson never got around to dealing with it.

DiamondLily Sun 13-Aug-23 12:46:16

Well, according to WiKi, so not sure if it's right, the Dublin agreement seemed to be about claiming asylum in the first EU country arrived at:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation

fancythat Sun 13-Aug-23 12:28:15

Are you not missing the major point that a lot of people do not want any immigrants? Unless they fill Uk job vacancies?

Like the system before 1994 or whenever it was, when it changed?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 13-Aug-23 12:19:34

Jackiest

We are not in the Dublin agreement as we left it in 2020. Another benifit of Brexit.

I think most are more than aware of that, but if we re-negotiated, then it would drastically cut people coming to the U.K. and if we opened safe passage it would stop the drownings.

The people smugglers would lose all their trade.

It is so simple but if course this is never going to happen under this government.

Jackiest Sun 13-Aug-23 11:41:13

We are not in the Dublin agreement as we left it in 2020. Another benifit of Brexit.

ronib Sun 13-Aug-23 10:55:20

Interesting question. In September 2020 the EU adopted a New Pact on Migration and Asylum. No member state should disproportionately take responsibility for asylum seekers but all members should participate in hosting asylum seekers.
The UK needs to recognise the concept of fair share - are we under or over the threshold acceptable to the EU?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 13-Aug-23 10:08:36

The asylum issue would be dealt with at a stroke.

Simples