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Should the President of the Spanish FA resign

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kittylester Fri 25-Aug-23 11:58:23

Or not?

I think he should, then I think he shouldn't.

Should he be forgiven in the light of the excitement prevailing at the time? Or not?

Iam64 Fri 25-Aug-23 14:39:59

Yes. It’s not just the inappropriate kiss, it’s the crotch grabbing

Plus he’s now talking about false feminism and the kiss being ‘mutual’. That’s not what the player said in the dressing room, when asked by team mates she said she didn’t like it but what could she do.
Exactly - women are still being subjected to inappropriate sexual stuff. He wouldn’t have forced a kiss on a male player

So sad to see this at the end of a great world cup

lemsip Fri 25-Aug-23 14:51:34

No!

Farzanah Fri 25-Aug-23 15:01:06

Yes.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 25-Aug-23 15:03:47

I haven’t seen the kiss however, if men grabbing/touching their genitalia through their clothing is a sackable offence there will be an awful amount of unemployed men.

Foxygloves Fri 25-Aug-23 15:40:57

FarNorth

They were of the same culture Foxygloves and the woman felt it was an assault.
The men in your pics are not being grabbed by the head so that they can't escape, are they.

If it was misjudgement in a moment of excitement he should, at least, make a heartfelt apology but he's done nothing of the kind.

I know
I was being flippant.
SOH bypass?

Katie59 Fri 25-Aug-23 16:09:15

“he took both his hands to grab her face she was quite out of any control then he kissed her full on the lips then as he released her he smacked her on the bottom as she walked away”

I saw the clip of the incident, the kiss I thought was overexitement, he is Latin after all. I’ve seen men do it as well in the same circumstances

The slap on the backside was out line

Missed the crotch grabbing whose was it!.

Allsorts Fri 25-Aug-23 16:18:41

Goodness me, what an over reaction. I’m sure the woman isn’t calling for such an action. She handled it beautifully. Doubt if he will do it again.

merlotgran Fri 25-Aug-23 16:21:54

Katie59

“he took both his hands to grab her face she was quite out of any control then he kissed her full on the lips then as he released her he smacked her on the bottom as she walked away”

I saw the clip of the incident, the kiss I thought was overexitement, he is Latin after all. I’ve seen men do it as well in the same circumstances

The slap on the backside was out line

Missed the crotch grabbing whose was it!.

His own. Maybe he needed the loo!

nanaK54 Fri 25-Aug-23 16:38:46

In my humble he is a sleazy git and should be sacked

kittylester Fri 25-Aug-23 16:39:06

Allsorts

Goodness me, what an over reaction. I’m sure the woman isn’t calling for such an action. She handled it beautifully. Doubt if he will do it again.

I think she is though.

tanith Fri 25-Aug-23 16:53:57

Spanish Government are taking steps to suspend him and FIFA are investigating.

Parsley3 Fri 25-Aug-23 17:10:34

twitter.com/Youpsico/status/1693245627457503362?t=dYG-zF6iTGjbZZ4f5Aft1w&s=19
Here is the clip. There was a great deal of hugging and kissing going on as the win was celebrated. I didn't see the crotch grabbing but I don't think the kiss, in this context, is a hanging offence.

Bella23 Fri 25-Aug-23 17:14:10

If someone had done it to my DD's at that age I would have been outraged.
There again I'm northern and don't like kissing of any kind full stop. My dad only kissed my mum in public on New Years Eve.
When I was first married and had to socialise with DH our neighbour used to take great delight in telling people that Dh's wife didn't kiss she preferred a hand shake.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 25-Aug-23 17:15:35

Parsley3

twitter.com/Youpsico/status/1693245627457503362?t=dYG-zF6iTGjbZZ4f5Aft1w&s=19
Here is the clip. There was a great deal of hugging and kissing going on as the win was celebrated. I didn't see the crotch grabbing but I don't think the kiss, in this context, is a hanging offence.

Having now watched it neither do I.

Nightsky2 Fri 25-Aug-23 17:28:49

GrannyGravy13

I haven’t seen the kiss however, if men grabbing/touching their genitalia through their clothing is a sackable offence there will be an awful amount of unemployed men.

All those footballers grabbing their bits just like little boys do. Totally unaware they’re doing it of course.

That kiss was a bit yucky though. It’s got to be up to the girl footballer to say what should happen I would have thought.

BlueBelle Fri 25-Aug-23 17:30:53

Well I do, she was grabbed whether she wanted it or not,
That wasn’t a Spanish kiss on both cheeks it was a sleezy man who thought he could
He’s apparently a nasty bit of goods anyway and there has been lots of problems within the team He manhandled her and put her in a position where she couldn’t push him away
Embarrassing for her
I heard some lady involved today on radio say that was the tip of the iceberg sounds as if he’s well known for poor behaviour

Farzanah Fri 25-Aug-23 17:39:15

I wonder if he’d have kissed to a male footballer on the lips?

Sparklefizz Fri 25-Aug-23 18:14:31

pinkquartz

Sack him. The player he kissed did not want him to touch her.
She never gave him permission. He HELD her head.

This!
He should go.

Sparklefizz Fri 25-Aug-23 18:16:23

Allsorts

Goodness me, what an over reaction. I’m sure the woman isn’t calling for such an action. She handled it beautifully. Doubt if he will do it again.

But she is calling for action !

Hithere Fri 25-Aug-23 18:25:52

This is the tip of the iceberg.... watch out if anybody speaks up and the doors are open for others

Sexual assault and and sexual harassment are universal.

Being Latin- Spain is not a Latin country BTW- is not an excuse for women to be disrespected

Callistemon21 Fri 25-Aug-23 18:30:20

25Avalon

And the hand on the crotch was that ok as well?

Was he? 😲
I must admit I wasn't looking there!

It was inappropriate for a powerful man to grab a woman and kiss her on the lips without her consent, excitement of the moment or not.

BlueBelle Fri 25-Aug-23 19:07:46

Well the footbal player in question has said she _did not_consent to him kissing her on the mouth and the whole
team have said they will refuse to play until he goes
So all the posters who think it was ok obviously the other women in the team don’t agree with you

Felicititious Fri 25-Aug-23 19:18:51

No

I'd normally be in the 'string him up' camp, but all I saw was over exuberance with the crotch incident, and sheer joy with the kiss on the lips. And yes, I actually do believe he would have done the same with a male player.
I'm really shocked that she is talking about taking him to court..... it was a spur of the moment, joyful smacker- nothing sexual about it at all.

BlueBelle Fri 25-Aug-23 19:21:46

Gosh amazing that you see it that way Felicititious I do hope grabbing your tackle when excited doesn’t become a thing
Hope he gets the boot 😂

pascal30 Fri 25-Aug-23 19:26:35

given the state of the world is this really important enough to be given so much press coverage...