Interesting article - Harry the trauma exhibitionist.

WellsRose

It could still house a considerable amount. My mum spent the first five years sharing a lounge with her parents and siblings. There were I'm sure there are families living in cramped conditions who could make use for a couple of those rooms.

They could also make use of all those second/holiday homes owned by ordinary people, or millionaire footballers or overpaid TV ‘personalities’.

If I have offended you, I apologise, my intention was to be sympathetic and helpful as you had said there was “nothing you could do about it”
My suggestion was genuinely meant.

Foxygloves

^I have processing problem so I'm always going to struggle with sense checking. It gets worse when I'm passionate about something. Unfortunately there is not much I can do about that^

I am sorry to hear this, perhaps being less impassioned and histrionic would make it easier for you to think through calmly what you want to say, there’s plenty of time to formulate a reply, read it through and think again before pressing post.

Wow just wow. You are being rude and personal. I do have AdHd as well as a couple of other learning disorders. Only found out why I was impulsive and always rushing a few years ago as nobody likes to be different But to accuse someone of having a personality disorder (histrionic) is so so wrong.

I think if you've got any decency, yourself that post to be removed.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

It could still house a considerable amount. My mum spent the first five years sharing a lounge with her parents and siblings. There were I'm sure there are families living in cramped conditions who could make use for a couple of those rooms.

WellsRose

Foxygloves

The titles are not deserved by anyone. You get them through birth right or you marry someone who has that birth right
Like “inheriting” your surname at birth or for women, taking your husband’s surname on marriage So illogical isn’t it?
That’s why I’m MRS Gloves (FH’s surname) Fancy, whoulda thunk it?

BTW Sophie and Edwards son is Earl of Wessex (formerly his fathers title) but never let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Royal rant.

He's an Earl. Surely it's that's it.

So if it's no different to having a surname at birth of being Mrs through marriage, then why the fuss about Meghan and her children.

(Looking around for somebody making a fuss)
Oh, Meghan of course and yourself.

He's an Earl. Surely it's that's it
I don’t understand this either.

Anniebach

Dukes of Sussex, York, Edingburgh are not birthright, they are given by the Queen / King.

If Harry had not been given Sussex when he married he would still be Prince Harry and Megan princess Henry

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It doesn't matter if they were given them at birth, inherited after the Queen died or were bestowed by the reigning monarch, it we give out titles, then the recipients use them whether we like it or not.

WellsRose

I'm sorry it's only ROOMS not bedrooms. How does cope?

Not quite so many homeless families then.

I don’t understand your last sentence.

Oreo. Surely it we pay for The Royal Family then we should be pleased that they are criticised. They earn their own money now and the titles were given to them because of who Harry is.

Foxygloves

^The titles are not deserved by anyone. You get them through birth right or you marry someone who has that birth right^
Like “inheriting” your surname at birth or for women, taking your husband’s surname on marriage So illogical isn’t it?
That’s why I’m MRS Gloves (FH’s surname) Fancy, whoulda thunk it?

BTW Sophie and Edwards son is Earl of Wessex (formerly his fathers title) but never let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Royal rant.

He's an Earl. Surely it's that's it.

So if it's no different to having a surname at birth of being Mrs through marriage, then why the fuss about Meghan and her children.

Dukes of Sussex, York, Edingburgh are not birthright, they are given by the Queen / King.

If Harry had not been given Sussex when he married he would still be Prince Harry and Megan princess Henry

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eazybee

The son of Prince Edward is the Earl of Wessex; Earl of Lichfield is an entirely different family.
Your posts are becoming increasingly incoherent and inaccurate.
Try using a spell checker and google to check facts.
That is advice.

I have googled the facts. I do use spell checked but how would it pick up Lichfield? I should have just typed Earl because that is the main point.

I have processing problem so I'm always going to struggle with sense checking. It gets worse when I'm passionate about something. Unfortunately there is not much I can do about that. If you're struggling to understand then all you have to ask for clarifaction.

What other facts have I got wrong?

If we give.out titles at birth then we have to accept they have the right to keep them or use them. Archie and Lillibet have that birth right
But they did not have that right at birth as their great grandmother was still alive. The grandchildren of the monarch may be HRH and in due course when the Queen died, their title was granted to them
As somebody suggested upthread, facts can be checked simply enough. .

The titles are not deserved by anyone. You get them through birth right or you marry someone who has that birth right
Like “inheriting” your surname at birth or for women, taking your husband’s surname on marriage So illogical isn’t it?
That’s why I’m MRS Gloves (FH’s surname) Fancy, whoulda thunk it?

BTW Sophie and Edwards son is Earl of Wessex (formerly his fathers title) but never let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Royal rant.

WellsRose

It's also funny when people use the words rejected the UK. It sounds like it's personal. It's not, you decide where you want to live. It doesn't cause the British people any suffering.

Because we the people pay for the RF then people do take it personally.Most were pleased that Harry was going to have a wife, loved the wedding and looked forward to them both playing a big part in things.Many were understanding that they both felt they needed to opt out of the RF and live in another country and wished them well.What they really hated was the way that Harry and Meghan then set out to publicly trash the RF, constantly whining while holding their hands out for money and titles.

The son of Prince Edward is the Earl of Wessex; Earl of Lichfield is an entirely different family.
Your posts are becoming increasingly incoherent and inaccurate.
Try using a spell checker and google to check facts.
That is advice.

I'm sorry it's only ROOMS not bedrooms. How does cope?

Norah are you allowed to make rude and personal comments like that. You're not actually debating anything, just hurling insults.

WellsRose

I'm fact the press are always moaning there are too many people. Imagine how much space a member of the RoyAl family takes up. Andrew's hass 30 bedrooms. How many homeless families could live there?

Royal lodge has seven bedrooms.

I don't think any of them should have titles full stop. What has Chalotte or Lillibet done to deserve the title Princess? I actually think it's funny that's there's a couple of children growing up in the States that have the birth right to use Prince and Princess to cause Royalist to frot (don't think most people care). You can start a campaign to have them removed but Charles won't be happy as once that sets a precedent that we can remove titles from any of them.

Yes Poor Edward's children having to be just Lady Louise and the Earl of Lichfield. So common.

Peter Philip's used his Royal Connections when he organised the Queen 's 90th using his own company. It was never put out to tender.

Princess Margaret allegedly once wrote a letter to Sarah saying she was the biggest embarrassment the family had ever had. Yep it came from Margaret who wasn't always squeaky clean herself. Sarah has written a couple of books about her time in the family. No idea if she was critical as I've never read them. She once described herself as the most persecuted woman in Britain

Are you saying that she shouldn't criticise The Royal Family, does she not have freedom of speech?; What did they to help her when she was being picked apart by the press?

WellsRose

It's also funny when people use the words rejected the UK. It sounds like it's personal. It's not, you decide where you want to live. It doesn't cause the British people any suffering.

Here is where you truly lost the plot.

Sorry, didn't quote correctly in prior post.

Gracious, you've lost the plot!

WellsRose

I'm fact the press are always moaning there are too many people. Imagine how much space a member of the RoyAl family takes up. Andrew's hass 30 bedrooms. How many homeless families could live there?

What is the relevance of that to this thread?

Megan has mocked the Queen who gave the title she needs the title to make Money, she uses people

WellsRose

Rosie51

I believe the reason for accepting the children's titles is so that they can decide for themselves what they want when they are old enough oh come on, they didn't just "accept" the titles they campaigned for them! Anyway the titles could have been claimed when the children are adults no need for them now.
Meghan has rejected the Royal family, just not the bonuses the titles can bring. What do you suppose is the reason for using the title Duchess of Sussex if not to exploit the Royal Family connection?

How did they campaign for them?

In the Oprah interview Meghan indicated Archie wasn't a prince because of being mixed race. An out and out lie, he wasn't entitled to be a prince at that time, he and Lilibet became entitled on the death of the Queen. They made a point (more than once) of saying their children should have the titles, they didn't sit back and wait for the Palace to "offer" the titles.

Princess Anne's children don't have titles, she rejected offers to give them ones, they're quite happy just having ordinary status. As non working Royals they don't get the police protection Harry feels entitled to, even though he is a non-working Royal.

You appear to be criticising Sarah Duchess of York for keeping her title, I'd suggest she's done that at least in part for the bonuses it brings, but she's never rejected the RF and to be fair I don't think I've ever seen any criticism of them from her. Why do you think Meghan likes to style herself Duchess of Sussex, despite rejecting the RF and feeling free to criticise them publicly?