Interesting article - Harry the trauma exhibitionist.

Exactly sodapop.

Glorianny I didn't say the Invictus Games were not a success, I commented on Harry's continual whining about his unhappy life. Time to move on.

I used to know every Paul McCartney song off by heart, probably still do! I remember he said his mother Mary died of breast cancer when he was a similar age to Harry. He wrote "Let it be" about her. When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, Speaking words of wisdom, Let it be, let it be. Just one meaningful composition. Here was someone who could have wallowed in his grief writing melancholy "woe is me" music for many years, but he got on with living letting his product speak for itself.
The trouble is, Harry has no talent and no product other than his now crumbling link with the Royal Family.

Try reading some of the real reviews of the series.
One says
It's also very clear that Prince Harry is very dedicated to the Invictus Games since he founded them in 2014. The series is all about the veterans and their individual journey but the few times Prince Harry was shown on screen, you can see/feel his sincerity, love and connection to this community
You can read them here
www.imdb.com/title/tt14491228/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
What's very clear is that Heart of Invictus is about the athletes and not about Harry..

How many of those children have to walk behind their mother's coffin with cameras closing in on them so their every reaction is recorded? How many of them then have their father move his mistress into the family, someone their mother hated and blamed for the marriage breakdown?

Oh Change the record - boring!!!

M0nica

Prince Harry is not the only child to lose his mother. Everyday children lose their parent and the majority of them go on to live useful and purposeful lives without having to tell everyone about their misery all the time.

I do not doubt the trauma such children suffer, my DiL, my mother and my grandmother all grew up in families, where their father died when they were young and I have seen how this affects people through three different generations.

Many more children lose parents through relationship breakdown and quite a few people in the public eye had a parent who walked out and was never seen again.

But we get back to the fact that Prince Harry is the only one who has bassed his career round it.

I wonder whether he considers what damage he may be doing to his own children and whether, for their sakes, he should stop whiging?

How many of those children have to walk behind their mother's coffin with cameras closing in on them so their every reaction is recorded? How many of them then have their father move his mistress into the family, someone their mother hated and blamed for the marriage breakdown?

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Glorianny

What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games should be highlighted in the British Press only because of a speech by the person who helped to establish it, but who is consistently rubbished by them for saying nasty things about the royal family.

I agree, the games are a good idea and any support they give to damaged and injured service people is great. But it isn't really about Harry.
It's sad that he lost his mother, but many, many people lose their mothers every year, at various ages. It was a long time ago and it is well past the time he should be looking for sympathy, it doesn't excuse his behaviour. To many of us Harry is an irrelevance and I wish that he would stop inserting himself into anything that garners publicity.

So basically the fact that he started the games and is one of its most important supporters doesn't matter?

Prince Harry is not the only child to lose his mother. Everyday children lose their parent and the majority of them go on to live useful and purposeful lives without having to tell everyone about their misery all the time.

I do not doubt the trauma such children suffer, my DiL, my mother and my grandmother all grew up in families, where their father died when they were young and I have seen how this affects people through three different generations.

Many more children lose parents through relationship breakdown and quite a few people in the public eye had a parent who walked out and was never seen again.

But we get back to the fact that Prince Harry is the only one who has bassed his career round it.

I wonder whether he considers what damage he may be doing to his own children and whether, for their sakes, he should stop whiging?

Glorianny

What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games should be highlighted in the British Press only because of a speech by the person who helped to establish it, but who is consistently rubbished by them for saying nasty things about the royal family.

I agree, the games are a good idea and any support they give to damaged and injured service people is great. But it isn't really about Harry.
It's sad that he lost his mother, but many, many people lose their mothers every year, at various ages. It was a long time ago and it is well past the time he should be looking for sympathy, it doesn't excuse his behaviour. To many of us Harry is an irrelevance and I wish that he would stop inserting himself into anything that garners publicity.

No fan of H&M but

Meghan grew up in a place - Los Angeles - where therapy and therapy speak and examining your emotions is the norm. Harry is now living there and married to an LA actress so it's not surprising that he has been acclimatised to and adopted the local language and mode of communication that appears self indulgent twaddle to many others. He has been captured by the local 'me me me' behaviour of place

sodapop

My grandchildren father died when they were younger than Harry. They have gone on to make successes of their lives and to make him proud of them. So forgive me if I find Harry's constant whining annoying.

So is starting the Invictus games, starting a charity in Africa and moving to the US in order to protect his children from the invasive British press and the paparazzi not a success then?

There is also the Spencer family

My grandchildren father died when they were younger than Harry. They have gone on to make successes of their lives and to make him proud of them. So forgive me if I find Harry's constant whining annoying.

It occurred to me yesterday that it is twenty-six years since my mother died, two months before Diana.She wasn't 37 and I wasn't 12, so obviously not a tragedy just a natural progression. When she died I was divorced, no living relatives, children at University, and the saddest thing was that though friends and colleagues were kind and sympathetic, no-one here had ever met her, so no-one to talk to and share reminiscences about her.

I find the constant reiteration of 'I had no-one to talk to' 'no-one understood the trauma of coming back from Afghanistan.' very self-indulgent. He is the member of a large family, of all ages, not all royalty, some of whom have experienced war and action, (think Princes Philip and Andrew) and loss of family in tragic circumstances (the Mountbatten family.)

Wallowing in self-pity is never going to help, and doing it publicly repeatedly is worse.

Is 38 and 42 years young or middle aged

I did give him credit Glorianny, I said the games are something he should be immensely proud of. It's H IMO who focused on the wrong thing; himself. Something that he does constantly.

silverlining I so agree with your post childhood trauma lasts a lifetime and all the unnecessary vitriol thrown at this young couple is beyond my belief
Why ?
If you don’t like them move on I m no fan of the royal family but blimey it’s really nasty to keep hearing it over and over

The games start on 9th September, I am sure the participants will receive much press coverage.

Smileless2012

^What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games^ is for H, another opportunity to talk about his own issues.

He started the games which is something to be immensely proud of, but they're not about him. they're about the brave ex service men and women who compete.

Which is what the documentary is about, but where are the comments about them? It isn't Harry who is focussing on the wrong things, it is the British Press. The documentary was released on 30th August. It was made much earlier so the speech about his trauma could have been recorded at any time and is anyway just a small part of the programme. Why aren't people commenting on the content? Perhaps because it means giving Harry some credit, and acknowledging the dreadful damage done to people.

It’s been the anniversary of Diana’s death this week so it will be on her sons’ minds.
Childhood trauma can be life long and I can’t be the only person who remembers the funeral .
I am not particularly a fan of the royal family but don’t understand the constant criticism and vitriol from so many towards this man and his wife. It really doesn’t affect us. Ignore.

Glorianny

I suspect many will still find his acknowledgement valuable. Perhaps not if you are of the "just suck it up and get on with things" persuasion, but many of the people he is speaking to will have had their own battles with trauma and survival, and recognising that there is an alternative, that you don't have to do the traditional stiff upper lip, even if your family don't support you, will be meaningful for them. Maybe Harry knows his audience better than most do.

But there is the in between part.
Doesnt have to be either stiff upper lift, or the things people are posting about that he is doing.

Having said that, he lost his mum. And his dad maybe not the best to help him.
And personally dont think Meghan is the best person to help him either.

But he does have access to money and people to help.

What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games is for H, another opportunity to talk about his own issues.

He started the games which is something to be immensely proud of, but they're not about him. they're about the brave ex service men and women who compete.

What a pity that a documentary about injured service people, the trauma they experience and the support and help they have gained through sport and the games should be highlighted in the British Press only because of a speech by the person who helped to establish it, but who is consistently rubbished by them for saying nasty things about the royal family.

Michelle Obama is spot on

This is the bit that made me think:

I’ve never heard a considered and nuanced conversation from either Harry or Meghan about strained mental health services, socio-economically deprived communities, lack of access to services, and waiting lists that leave people behind.

I haven't noticed this either. But of course being in America means there is a many tiered health system and that is accepted as normal.

And yes, if he wants to serve people, ordinary people, then the Michelle Obama quote fits in quite well.

Public service, it's a bright, sharp, hot spotlight [and] the thing that I always keep in mind is that none of this is about us in public service. It's about the people that we serve; I always try to push the light back out and focus it on the folks that we are actually here to serve.

This is what I took from the article, RosesandLilac.