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Harry, Meghan and the Invictus Games

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Glorianny Sun 17-Sept-23 11:05:58

Now the Invictus Games have finished, it was a triumph for M&H who showed what they were capable of, mixing and socialising with the competitors and their families with ease and enjoyment. They have been widely praised in other countries. Coverage here seemed to be patchy. Which seems a bit strange and not right for the competitors. But can anyone doubt that the couple could have been a great asset, and modernised the RF, or that Meghan looks so much happier and more relaxed than when she was subjected to royal protocol?

Callistemon21 Sun 17-Sept-23 20:14:22

Much of her jewellery has been given to her
And mine 😁
Mind you, my favourite pair of earrings I bought myself for me!!

Glorianny Sun 17-Sept-23 20:27:17

Callistemon21

Jaberwok

Harry didn't start the games independently of the Royals . He got the idea from the American Warrior games in 2013. They were instigated in collaboration between the Royal Foundation of the then Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and the Ministry of Defence and launched in 2014. Prince William and Catherine contributed $1m in 2020. The Royal Foundation transferred $11 million to the games last year. Not many people seem to be aware of this financial support, particularly Prince Harry.

Thank you Jaberwok, as well.

Interesting.

That's slightly inaccurate. The Invictus website says that The Royal Foundation became The Endeavour Fund
The Endeavour Fund was also curated by the Royal Foundation, but in 2020, was transferred across to the Invictus Games Foundation.

It was misreported at the time that the Royal Foundation had 'gifted' £500k to the Invictus Games Foundation. The transfer amount we disclosed in 2021 actually reflects the move of the Endeavour Fund grants programme out of the Royal Foundation and into the Invictus Games Foundation, to create one home for supporting the recovery of international wounded, injured and sick servicemen and women

Harry knows where the money comes from. The money Netflix paid for the documentary about the Games has been donated to the Games.

Callistemon21 Sun 17-Sept-23 20:36:47

The money Netflix paid for the documentary about the Games has been donated to the Games

Of course! As it should be.

Glorianny Sun 17-Sept-23 20:40:55

Sorry about the photo the first one I wanted didn't work and that was a quick replacement But here's one you might like

Callistemon21 Sun 17-Sept-23 20:45:14

I did think I'd seen the white shirt before. 😁

That's a nice photo.

Now - should we campaign to have the Invictus Games on mainstream TV? Why not?
Harry?

Jaberwok Sun 17-Sept-23 20:49:10

Nevertheless to say that that the RF had nothing to do with the games is also inaccurate . To say that it was Harry's brainchild is also inaccurate. P.W also contributed the settlement he was awarded by the court case some years ago, to the Invictus Games, About £million.

Casdon Sun 17-Sept-23 21:38:10

Glorianny

Sparklefizz

Glorianny* The white jacket she wore proved so popular the website selling it crashed. It was J Crew.

No it wasn't. It was a designer jacket costing nearly £1,500. Plus she wore tens of thousands of pounds worth of jewellery.

Here's the story. Click on the link to see the jacket. www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/meghan-markle-sweater-blazer_l_6501e9cee4b0e254edce92e6

Now what evidence have you that it was designer?

Much of her jewellery has been given to her.

Here’s a non British, non biased resume of what Meghan wore.
www.lofficielusa.com/fashion/meghan-markle-2023-invictus-games-outfits-fashion-prince-harry
You don’t need to look hard to spot that she wore a lot of designer labels, and I covet the two tone sling back Chanel pumps (£840), they are lovely.

Callistemon21 Sun 17-Sept-23 21:41:48

So, as predicted, it has ended up all about Meghan and Harry and not about the Games.

merlotgran Sun 17-Sept-23 22:05:59

Callistemon21

So, as predicted, it has ended up all about Meghan and Harry and not about the Games.

I’m sure this is why Meghan delayed her appearance. Let Harry get all the boring stuff out of the way then she could have centre stage.

Callistemon21 Sun 17-Sept-23 22:11:10

I have a friend who likes to make an entrance.
When I was giving her a lift to an event, she insisted we needn't leave at a certain time in order to get a seat, even said she wanted everyone to notice when she arrived!

We got the last two seats near the door where it was draughty.
At least Harry saved Meghan a good seat.

Anniebach Sun 17-Sept-23 22:14:59

She loves a grand entrance, even made one on the day on her second wedding and in virginal white.

Glorianny Sun 17-Sept-23 23:00:44

Callistemon21

So, as predicted, it has ended up all about Meghan and Harry and not about the Games.

It. would be much easier to discuss the games if some of the media had reported on them. As it is there is little we can say because we know so little.
There's a website with Ukraine's acheivements www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/16/7420140/

But I heard one person saying that it is never about the medals and the last person to finish is cheered as loudly as the first. More media overage would be great.

Attlee Sun 17-Sept-23 23:31:42

More media coverage would indeed be great for this fantastic event, but I wonder why they don't?
No I don't really wonder...
There are some quite nasty and old fashioned views on this thread, which were unpleasant to read

Anniebach Mon 18-Sept-23 08:50:44

It is not old fashion to criticise liars

Mollygo Mon 18-Sept-23 09:21:36

Attlee, there was plenty of coverage if people wanted to watch or find out.
The RBL had information on the background of the participants and the BBC broadcast of all the action live across its online platform. Some events every day day were shown live on BBC iPlayer and Red Button.
In general, the media only seemed to focus on H&M, presumably because that would sell better than news about the athletes.

Google Invictus games 2023 and you get videos of . . . H&M.
Google images of Invictus games 2023 and you get pictures of . . . H&M.
It almost seems that their attendance detracted from attention to the achievements of the athletes.

Could you explain old fashioned and perhaps point out the examples on here?

Callistemon21 Mon 18-Sept-23 11:24:50

Could you explain old fashioned and perhaps point out the examples on here?

It is yet another unwarranted jibe at older people on a forum designed for older people!!

It is becoming too prevalent, lately, unfortunately.

Glorianny Mon 18-Sept-23 11:25:01

Mollygo

Attlee, there was plenty of coverage if people wanted to watch or find out.
The RBL had information on the background of the participants and the BBC broadcast of all the action live across its online platform. Some events every day day were shown live on BBC iPlayer and Red Button.
In general, the media only seemed to focus on H&M, presumably because that would sell better than news about the athletes.

Google Invictus games 2023 and you get videos of . . . H&M.
Google images of Invictus games 2023 and you get pictures of . . . H&M.
It almost seems that their attendance detracted from attention to the achievements of the athletes.

Could you explain old fashioned and perhaps point out the examples on here?

I don't think BBCi player, the on-line platform or the RBL can be considered as mainstream media. There was little coverage on any mainstream news channel.
I think the presence of H&M was much appreciated and enjoyed by the athletes and their families.
I think the reason it was not shown much in the UK is because it shows H&M in a positive light and that is threatening to the RF.

Anniebach Mon 18-Sept-23 11:27:36

Not everyone is taken in by them, too many lies and too much
mememe,

maddyone Mon 18-Sept-23 11:31:04

I’take as little notice of what Harry and Meghan are doing as possible. I was vaguely aware that the Invictus Games was going on, and I think it’s a very worthwhile project, but as for Harry and Meghan being there, I couldn’t give a toss.
Harry doesn’t do all the work of organising them, he just puts his name to them, and then turns up. Meghan just uses them as a catwalk as far as I’m able to see during my limited exposure to them.
I try to avoid watching or reading anything about these two. I’ve got no time for them at all.

Callistemon21 Mon 18-Sept-23 11:31:13

I don't think BBCi player, the on-line platform or the RBL can be considered as mainstream media. There was little coverage on any mainstream news channel
I agree with that.

However, there has been World Athletics, Women's World Cup Football, Rugby etc all being broadcast and many people are complaining about the surfeit of sport on mainstream TV.

Instead of outrageous comedy and niche programmes attracting few viewers, ITV and BBC could use their 'alternative channels' for a lot more sport.
They might attract a lot more viewers.

Mollygo Mon 18-Sept-23 11:37:23

I think the presence of H&M was much appreciated and enjoyed by the athletes and their families.
I think the reason it was not shown much in the UK is because it shows H&M in a positive light and that is threatening to the RF.
Both these are speculation on your part Glorianny. Perhaps you’re letting your prejudices show.

Anniebach Mon 18-Sept-23 11:44:04

A positive light ?

eazybee Mon 18-Sept-23 12:24:24

I don't consider lack of coverage of the Invictus Games to be due to fear of harming the royal family.

It is the behaviour of H & M that colours how I feel about them, notably through their involvement in the Winfrey interview, the Netflix series and their books.

All were calculated to cause harm and distress to their close relations, whilst making money from exploitation of a relationship with a family they affect to despise.

Their untruths are exposed again and again, and are regularly challenged by those who believe in facts, but they will continue to provide suspect material for the media through their relentless desire for publicity.

The interesting information about the creation and funding of the Invictus Games was a case in point; not direct lies but promotion of a belief that it was entirely Harry's project.

Jaxjacky Mon 18-Sept-23 12:40:35

I don’t think the lack of mainstream TV coverage reflects on Harry and Meghan. There are numerous charitable sporting events being held worldwide throughout the year, including some for veterans. If they were all broadcast, there would be little else on.

HomeAgain123 Mon 18-Sept-23 13:40:12

Anniebach

The school run and she had to buy milkshakes

Children old enough for school ? Thought just had 2nd and 4th birthday… us start school later