Some much needed good news

Germanshepherdsmum

It also raised expectations of home ownership when people had always been content to rent a council house - secure tenancy, external decorations and structural repairs and plumbing issues dealt with FOC by the council. I’m not saying that aspiration to home ownership is in any way a bad thing, but it was accepted that realistically many couldn’t afford it. That has changed and has contributed to setting generations against one another.

I agree and that is why we need a massive Council house building programme funded from taxation.

Primrose53 I think tenancies can be handed down but only once. So if a spouse “inherits” it then that is it.

Grantanow

Germanshepherdsmum

That would be a district council, not a county council. A budget of that size for external lawyers 30 years ago was not inconsiderable. When I worked for a county council in the late 70s/early 80s the only use of external lawyers was the extremely occasional taking of counsel’s opinion. Otherwise absolutely everything was done in house,

In some cases there is a non-metropolitan unitary authority as now in Somerset which is responsible for planning decisions.

Yes you’re right Grantanow, in some areas there are unitary authorities now which cover old county and district functions.

pascal30

Iagree, and also tenencies could be handed down to the next generation I think

Pretty sure they can’t around here. I have read newspaper reports where adult offspring’s parents have lived, say, 50 years in a council house and their children were born and bred there. But when the parents pass away, the tenancy is ended. It usually ends in local uproar and the “child” is usually offered a flat or tiny property elsewhere which they don’t want.

tenancies

Iagree, and also tenencies could be handed down to the next generation I think

It also raised expectations of home ownership when people had always been content to rent a council house - secure tenancy, external decorations and structural repairs and plumbing issues dealt with FOC by the council. I’m not saying that aspiration to home ownership is in any way a bad thing, but it was accepted that realistically many couldn’t afford it. That has changed and has contributed to setting generations against one another.

Callistemon21

Germanshepherdsmum

Councils could be given money to build their own houses (they already have money to buy and rent out existing houses - my local authority is currently buying some for Afghan refugees and the homeless). And the right to buy should be repealed. A disastrous piece of legislation.

Right to buy was disastrous because sometimes the houses were sold way below their value and also because there should have been provision put in place to ensure that Councils used that money to build new homes.

This.

Shocking that council properties were sold off with no plan to replace the loss to social housing. RTB was always nothing more than a money raising racket for central government. Short termist and has led to the current dire issues with housing in this country.

MaizieD

The word clouds are interesting, but I don't think they indicate much beyond the fact that the leader of the party in government is always going to have had far more media coverage than the leaders of the other parties have had.

I do note though, that there are a lot of very negative words in Sunak's, and very little that express approval.

Also, that both the Labour & Libdem 'clouds' have the word 'fairness' on them, I couldn't find that anywhere on Sunak's.

I think the exercise would be more appropriate if done during a General Election campaign, towards the end, perhaps, when there would be a bit more equable media coverage of all the parties and voters would be thinking more about them than they would at other times.

I think the word clouds are very unfair, to all the leaders of political parties and dare I say it, a bit childish.

Germanshepherdsmum

That would be a district council, not a county council. A budget of that size for external lawyers 30 years ago was not inconsiderable. When I worked for a county council in the late 70s/early 80s the only use of external lawyers was the extremely occasional taking of counsel’s opinion. Otherwise absolutely everything was done in house,

In some cases there is a non-metropolitan unitary authority as now in Somerset which is responsible for planning decisions.

The word clouds are interesting, but I don't think they indicate much beyond the fact that the leader of the party in government is always going to have had far more media coverage than the leaders of the other parties have had.

I do note though, that there are a lot of very negative words in Sunak's, and very little that express approval.

Also, that both the Labour & Libdem 'clouds' have the word 'fairness' on them, I couldn't find that anywhere on Sunak's.

I think the exercise would be more appropriate if done during a General Election campaign, towards the end, perhaps, when there would be a bit more equable media coverage of all the parties and voters would be thinking more about them than they would at other times.

Whitewavemark2

Labour won the Rutherglen and Hamilton West seat with a huge 24% swing.

We can look forward to repeating this all over the country in the GE and get shot of this corrupt, lying, cheating and incompetent government.

And replacing it with another of the same.

LizzieDrip

The words on the Labour word are not nearly as vociferously negative as those on the Conservative one. Some of the words describing the Conservatives are extremely damming - a powerful expression of the public mood indeed.

According to the strap line on the BBC websites these word clouds are the publics opinion of the leaders not the parties.

The words on the Labour word are not nearly as vociferously negative as those on the Conservative one. Some of the words describing the Conservatives are extremely damming - a powerful expression of the public mood indeed.

I saw the interview with Sunak on Laura Kuensberg, and when shown his word cloud he was actually very defensive - it clearly upset him that the biggest word on his was Rich. I missed it this morning as I was on the train, but expect Starmer is upset too - I think they are actually quite powerful expressions of public mood, and leaders should work on the areas where they highlight perceptions that can be changed.

Oops Sir Davey

Sir Daley, Lib Dem’s

Labour word cloud

Both of these are attributed to the leaders not the parties according to the BBC

Jane43

Thank you GrannyGravy13. It was also noticeable that there were other words in the same size font - they were ‘People, Himself and Labour’ but ‘Nothing’ was selected to be put in the centre. I am now going to see what words were on the Conservative and Lib Dem word clouds.

Here is the Conservative one from last week

Thank you GrannyGravy13. It was also noticeable that there were other words in the same size font - they were ‘People, Himself and Labour’ but ‘Nothing’ was selected to be put in the centre. I am now going to see what words were on the Conservative and Lib Dem word clouds.

Jane43 I apologise you are correct it was about Labour just as the previous ones were about Conservatives and Lib Dem’s.

Thank you for pointing it out.

GrannyGravy13

I think it was the

blue tie tied tight round Tory voters necks stopping the blood reaching their dead brains

comment that some are found offensive…

Actually, it would have to be Yellow in my county!!! Tories are yellow after the dear Lord Lowthers.[The Yellow Earl]. A bit of tie a yellow ribbon around the old Oak tree,I don't think so.

GrannyGravy13

They have just shown him a word cloud about himself biggest word NOTHING 🤣

Just for the sake of accuracy the word cloud wasn’t about him it was the answer to a question, “What do you think the Labour Party stands for?”

GrannyGravy13

Listening to Sir Starmer being interviewed by Victoria Derbyshire, the man is promoting unicorns, rainbows, pixies and the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow 🤣

He has promised that NHS hospitals will
function at the weekends under Labour.
DH has had all his appointments including a biopsy on Sundays throughout September. Someone should tell him the NHS already works 7 days a week.

There are more holes in his plans than my kitchen colander…

Agree hospitals have always functioned at weekends seven days a week Reminds me Huny Health Secretary saying hospital will work 7 day week doctors striked more for patient safety first then pay increase. Starmer and Streeting have private health donors at conference, only 1 in 5 are Labour members there so NHS is not safe in their hands. And why do we have a Knight of the realm and who doesn't think Israel is an apartheid state as Labour leader.

I am afraid that going on past Labour governments it will be a disaster if they get in. The problems we have now have not been caused by the government entirely, the whole world is struggling. Kier Starmer is not the answer and Rishi Sunak needs time for his plans to work, and they will.