Labour has won both byelections

I am hoping they have listened on that issue but I am wary, many women wont forgive them if they return to pretending men are women and the safeguarding issues that that involves. I think the way that many Eiropean countries are changing their position on this in relation to children will help.

I don’t understand what you mean by “woke”

I realise I am in the minority if not the ONLY Conservative on GN 😳 and am ready for Sir Keir to get in at the next election.

What worries me greatly is some members of the Labour Party seem very Woke! Sir K couldn’t even give a proper definition of a woman ! I wonder if he will back all this pronoun nonsense. Heyho nothing I can do about it.

I see that Sunak has mentioned cutting the tax for the highest earners.

Good-oh that should bring voters back in their droves.

MaizieD whatever anyone thinks of BJ, he certainly knew how to play to the mob. He won the last landslide victory almost single handedly? The Conservative Party don’t have the same back up now and this plays out for the individual mp. Also Dorries is seen as a BJ supporter and the brand is now toxic. There are a lot of disillusioned voters currently and mid-Beds might vote differently next time round. The Conservative core may return?

I’m delighted at the result. I don’t support a specific party, I look at the manifesto to help me decide. I also look at the impact the existing party has had and that would stop me voting blue. Time for a change, far too much corruption in government here.

Dorries was MP for mid Beds. from 2005 on. It has always been tory. So what on earth does Johnson have to do with it?

MaizieD have trouble following your logic here - the significant factor has to be there’s no BJ on the scene really cranking up the wishful thinking bubble machine. Thankfully

Urmstongran

Well . In both constituencies Labour only won with just over a thousand votes, but 55-65% of people didn't turn out to vote...

That's because turnout is always low in byelections. However, whatever the turnout, with such a huge majority at the last GE the tories should have wiped the floor with Labour and the LibDems. The fact that they didn't is a tad significant...

dayvidg

In Mid Bedfordshire Labour won with 34.1% of the votes - a prime example of the problem with 'first past the post'. Despite the vast majority of Labour supporters (I believe around 80%) being in favour of PR, I expect that once in power any moves to meaningful reform of the democratic process in Britain will be quietly shelved by the Labour elite.

It’s not a case of PR being shelved, because to be shelved it would have to be an existing Labour pledge, and it isn’t? I think you’ve confused Labour Party members with Labour supporters too, as although there is crossover they aren’t the same group?

In Mid Bedfordshire Labour won with 34.1% of the votes - a prime example of the problem with 'first past the post'. Despite the vast majority of Labour supporters (I believe around 80%) being in favour of PR, I expect that once in power any moves to meaningful reform of the democratic process in Britain will be quietly shelved by the Labour elite.

Just seen quite an honest post from Tory David Frost about how catastrophic these results are for the conservatives.

Well . In both constituencies Labour only won with just over a thousand votes, but 55-65% of people didn't turn out to vote...

My constituency MP has a majority of about 27,500. If she loses the next election and the smug smile is wiped off her face, it will be better than a Portillo moment for me.

growstuff

Casdon

PS as I mentioned before, I don’t think Labour were expecting to win this seat.

I know I wasn't. I thought the LDs and Labour would split the opposition and the Conservatives would sneak through.

Yes, that’s what I thought too.

Steady Louella.

Casdon

PS as I mentioned before, I don’t think Labour were expecting to win this seat.

I know I wasn't. I thought the LDs and Labour would split the opposition and the Conservatives would sneak through.

I'd be willing to bet my house on Labour winning the next election

To be fair if Starmer wins the next election by securing every single seat in the country there will still be some convoluted reason why this isnt a success.

PS as I mentioned before, I don’t think Labour were expecting to win this seat.

varian

I am a LIbDem but I would have voted Labout in Tamworth.

In MidBeds which was a three way contest I would have voted LibDem.

As in all by-elections, the turnout in MidBeds was low and so the Tories voted collapsed but the number of votes cast for the Labour Party also fell, compared to 2019 actually also fell!

Of the three Parties, only the LIbDems actually increased their vote!

Smoke and mirrors here. The Labour vote share increased by 12.4%, the Lib Dem vote share increased by 10.5%.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-67147435
The Lib Dem’s did well, but not as well as Labour did. The actual numbers who voted was lower, as for all by elections, so it doesn’t prove anything to say less people voted Labour than in 2019.

As in all by-elections, the turnout in MidBeds was low

Precisely, varian. Turnout is always higher in a general election. The seats could well change hands again.

Vote Labour, vote woke.

Oh dear. What on earth does that mean?

I am a LIbDem but I would have voted Labout in Tamworth.

In MidBeds which was a three way contest I would have voted LibDem.

As in all by-elections, the turnout in MidBeds was low and so the Tories voted collapsed but the number of votes cast for the Labour Party also fell, compared to 2019 actually also fell!

Of the three Parties, only the LIbDems actually increased their vote!

Good to see my MP working so hard to win the bye-election - he deserves the success.