This piece comes from the Conservative Party newsletter and is very even handed about Sir Keir’s awkward position. To be fair he has stared down the position of his Muslim MPs and Councillors so is taking a real decision.
Please acknowledge that this article sounds fairly sympathetic towards him.
conservativehome.com/2023/10/28/starmers-middle-east-dilemma-there-is-far-more-at-stake-here-than-the-future-of-a-single-political-leader/
So what do Grans think?
Human right lawyer U.N. official resigns because of U.N. inactivity agains Israel genocide of Palestinians
He blames countries USA and Britain complicit in Israel war crimes
m.youtube.com/watch?v=wiGp2mvFLY0
Grany
Human right lawyer U.N. official resigns because of U.N. inactivity agains Israel genocide of Palestinians
He blames countries USA and Britain complicit in Israel war crimes
m.youtube.com/watch?v=wiGp2mvFLY0
Is this Human Rights Lawyer happy that as from tomorrow Iran is Chair of UN Human Rights Commission?
that video is a history of how Palestine developed
I have a view about the UN a once respected group, no longer!
Nothing to do with what they do or don’t say about Israel tho.
Emma Dent Coad
HUGE 👇👇
This is the start of a new chapter of revolt.
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Inzamam Rashid
@inzyrashid
BREAKING: Burnley & Pendle council leaders call on Keir Starmer to resign after his decision not to back a ceasefire in Gaza.
This is a big moment, which will have huge political ripple affects amongst the Labour Party. @SkyNews
He must be terrified.
Grany I’ve asked this question previously on this thread but received no answer. So, I respectfully ask again, how do those calling for a ceasefire propose it will work? Keir Starmer has, very clearly, set out reasons why a humanitarian pause is preferable to a complete ceasefire. I would really like to hear the argument as to why a ceasefire is preferable and how it would work. Thank you, in anticipation!
👇
I had to look up the meaning:
"This emoji often emphasizes that the text under it is important. If someone sends a 👇 to you and it shows that they're still typing, be patient! There's likely something interesting or eye-opening coming your way"
What a disappointment that was, I was expecting something really interesting.
In my experience, when someone feels the need to point out that the forthcoming text is important and HUGE, it suggests a lack of strength in the message of said text. As Shakespeare says: ‘The lady doth protest too much, methinks.’
Why are the Burnley & Pendle council leaders not resigning from the Labour Party?
vickya
Thank you for the link on 1/11 at 13.43.
I don’t blame a single Jew or Israeli for feeling this way.
It’s how I would feel if what happened in Israel on 7/10 had happened to me and my community. I would feel exactly the same.
ronib
Why are the Burnley & Pendle council leaders not resigning from the Labour Party?
Haven't Labour lost enough councillors already?
Glorianny Labour councillors do not set Labour Party policy? KS is Labour’s best chance of winning the next election.
And the most obvious point is that the Israelis are not going to listen to KS if he jumps ship to please local councillors!
ronib
Glorianny Labour councillors do not set Labour Party policy? KS is Labour’s best chance of winning the next election.
And the most obvious point is that the Israelis are not going to listen to KS if he jumps ship to please local councillors!
If you lived in those areas and you had voted for those councillors, and you were a Labour member who believed in a ceasefire would you still think they should resign? Or would you think they were right and Starmer should go?
We really don't have to take sides.
Glorianny
ronib
Glorianny Labour councillors do not set Labour Party policy? KS is Labour’s best chance of winning the next election.
And the most obvious point is that the Israelis are not going to listen to KS if he jumps ship to please local councillors!If you lived in those areas and you had voted for those councillors, and you were a Labour member who believed in a ceasefire would you still think they should resign? Or would you think they were right and Starmer should go?
People vote for councillors because of their local influence and input, and very frequently the leadership of a council is by a different political group to the government of the day. It’s not the case that people would endorse the tack taken by local councillors regarding issues for which they hadn’t elected them in the first place.
Quokka
Starmer is running scared. He saw what happened to Corbyn when he questioned Zionists.
I have no respect for him any more.
The Muslim lobby, they are the scary ones. I fear for my family living in London. What a hot bed of Muslim hatred it has become. Can't even commerate our war dead, many of which where of the Muslim faith, without them demonstrating. As for Mand s S the cowardly way they withdrew our Christmas colours because of some stupid analogy. This country has gone to the dogs.
Glorianny local government is concerned with local matters. It is not the prerogative of ordinary Uk voters to demand of another country how that country responds to a severe attack.
If I lived in Pendle, I would recognise the limitations of my personal wishes over another country’s internal security and warfare. I would form an opinion on the morality of the war and recognise that at the end of the day, maybe I would prefer a different approach but it has to be resolved by the main players involved. Don’t blame the leader of the opposition.
Latest on KS - calling for a humanitarian pause in Gaza. Will this be heeded by the main players?
Gesture politics to pacify the Labour Party?
ronib Starmer’s position is unchanged from what he said in his last speech the other day. How is that gesture politics, do explain?
We really should not be demonising Palestinians or Muslims , they are not our enemies, just ordinary people the same as we are.
Marching for peace in no way disrespects our war dead. I expect many of our own fathers took part in world war two, we do not disrepectvour own fathers by showing some compassion for the people in Gaza.
We do not have to take sides.
Casdon we in the UK can pontificate as much as we like - one minute it’s no we can’t have a humanitarian ceasefire and the next minute it’s yes let’s have one. As if Israel is going to take the slightest notice of our instructions. This to my mind is gesture politics.
ronib
Latest on KS - calling for a humanitarian pause in Gaza. Will this be heeded by the main players?
Gesture politics to pacify the Labour Party?
Sir Starmer’s stance has been consistent with asking for a humanitarian pause it is in line with the Government.
I don’t understand what you meant in the context of Starmer’s statement today though ronib, in what way do you think what he said was ‘to pacify the Labour Party’ that he hadn’t said already?
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