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Has the UN lost the plot?

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GrannyGravy13 Wed 01-Nov-23 16:35:25

There is something inherently wrong with Iran chairing the UN Human Rights Committee as from 2nd November 2023

Urmstongran Wed 01-Nov-23 16:44:03

I think it’s shocking. A wolf in sheep’s clothing indeed.
Mind you I’ve become very disillusioned with the UN these past few years.

mrshat Wed 01-Nov-23 16:49:39

There are no words strong enough for how I feel about it!

Urmstongran Wed 01-Nov-23 16:55:29

Only hatred of Israel unites the UN now.

Urmstongran Wed 01-Nov-23 16:59:08

From the Telegraph recently:

“One particularly egregious body is the UN Human Rights Council. A glance at its current make-up shows the utter madness, the moral topsy-turviness, and the futility of the organisation. It’s packed with countries with an ignominious approach to human rights, from China to Qatar to Somalia and Cameroon and Bolivia (currently a vice-president of the Council).

Perhaps given the decline of Western power, all this was inevitable. But it remains a terrible shame. After the Second World War, there was a sense of urgency and goodwill – or at least the pretence of it – because of the shocking nature of the previous 50 years.

It was in this context that the UN came into being: to promote stability and peace. The project has now become a stomping ground for those who hate both those things, and who want badly to destroy them.”

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 01-Nov-23 17:01:00


maddyone Wed 01-Nov-23 17:11:54

Iran chairing the UN Human Rights Committee?
Words fail me!

MerylStreep Wed 01-Nov-23 17:16:32

has the UN lost the plot
Did they ever get it ? No!!!

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 01-Nov-23 17:26:27

Good grief : what that regime understands about peace,stability and human rights you could write on the back of a postage stamp.

Grantanow Wed 01-Nov-23 17:31:34

Seems to have lost its NY Director today!

TerriBull Wed 01-Nov-23 17:38:33

The Iran that has Morality Police who dragged some poor 16 year old off a train for not wearing a headscarf, beat her around the head which left her in a coma before she subsequently died. WTF do they know about human rights shock

The UN was set up in different days, maybe it served some sort of purpose then. For ages it has been a useless talking shop, it has had trillions of pounds thrown at it and achieves what exactly?

Iam64 Wed 01-Nov-23 18:18:51

The death of the 16 year old is a terrifying example of life for females in Iran. From 1979 when the Islamic Revolution replaced the Shah (king Mohammed) life for women seems to have become increasingly oppressive. I’ve British friends who lived in Persia, as it was then known, in the 70’s. Life is very different now, especially for women and girls

MerylStreep Wed 01-Nov-23 18:28:14

China have a dangerous relationship with Iran.
China has a huge influence with the UN.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 01-Nov-23 18:29:12

‘A talking shop’ - perfect description Terribull. Useless bunch of w***ers.

MerylStreep Wed 01-Nov-23 18:30:26

I meant to add: when it stinks, look to China.

TerriBull Wed 01-Nov-23 18:38:09

I had relatives who lived in Terehan in the 70s like Paris allegedly! women had relative freedoms. Whilst the Shah had his secret police and was to an extent a puppet of America I'd have rather been a woman there then as opposed to now, what a giant step back for women once it became a theocracy. My next door neighbours from our previous home fled Iran after the Ayatollas took over.

TerriBull Wed 01-Nov-23 18:51:16

Sp. Tehran

ronib Wed 01-Nov-23 19:31:21

Time to disband the UN? Whatever its remit, it doesn’t seem fit for purpose whatever the original intent. Could be doing more damage than good?

Nanatoone Wed 01-Nov-23 19:37:01

Time for the pretence that is the UN to be sent packing, this is a. Insult to women and democracy everywhere. Disgraceful.

Iam64 Wed 01-Nov-23 19:41:49

TerriBull, I have close friends who enjoyed life in Persia before the shah was disposed in the 70’s. They had freedoms which don’t exist for women now

Gillycats Wed 01-Nov-23 19:48:58

The UN aren’t fit for purpose. They need to be shut down.

TerriBull Wed 01-Nov-23 19:58:47

Yes this is true I'm, It was a cafe culture back then, they had it all. A wonderful history,culturally rich, a great cuisine skiing, beach life around The Caspian. I even think people were free to worship whatever their religious persuasion was. My neighbours were Zoroastrian the ancient religion of Persia, to practice their faith there now they would be deemed apostates.

TerriBull Wed 01-Nov-23 19:59:40

Sorry that was addressed to Iam not I'm.

Iam64 Wed 01-Nov-23 20:18:49

Life was good before the Islamic revolution. As terribull says, freedom to enjoy a rich history and culture. One of my friends now in his fifties lived there with his Persian dad and British mother. They left because of the revolution. He is sad he’s been unable to return to meet up with. extended family
Who’d have imagined replacing the progress and freedoms for an oppressive regime

Urmstongran Wed 01-Nov-23 20:28:07

For the past few years, Iran-Taliban relations have been very strong. When Kabul fell to the Taliban in August 2021, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei publicly, although with carefully crafted words, welcomed the new reality. Iran was one of just a handful of countries that kept its embassy open when the Taliban took over in Kabul, demonstrating Iran’s great expectations.

The Taliban would happily take people back to mediaeval times. Stonings, beheadings, women wrapped up like mummies, no schooling (best keep intelligent citizens as ignorant as possible eh?) it’s barbaric. And the Taliban? Off their heads on cocaine. Morality police? Suppression of women by men. It’s control of the highest order because they have the power. And the Kalashnikov rifles as they patrol the streets ...