Homelessness is a lifestyle choice according to Suella!

Cfaz49

I have a son who is one step away from the streets. At the moment he is sofa surfing. He has just had a serious back operation and is awaiting a gastric op for complicated diverticulitis and other problems. His doctor and advisor at the benefit’s office are trying to get him some accommodation. He was a gardener by trade. Not an addict and pretty much teetotal. But…. Male, single and sick… not a chance of any sort of help from anyone in the housing department. It’s a very short step for all of us from a home to the streets.

If he is your son then why can’t he stay with you? I really can’t understand

Crazy, deluded woman.

But the sale of the cheap housing was the only way these folk could get on property ladder- and if they would be staying there for years & years anyway no houses were likely to be freed up for others it makes sense that they get a good deal & buy their own home than pay rent for life! What councils should have done is REPLACE the bought houses but they did not.

Braverman, like her predecessor, and most of our current cabinet, have no compassion whatsoever and are unlikely ever to.

Yes, there certainly are a few homeless who simply cannot cope with living conventionally, but they’re certainly not the majority. Having previously worked within our benefits system and worked with many homeless people, the issues are down to many factors, lack of social housing, lack of affordable private rents, reviews being required re local housing allowances and lack of funding in almost every area which affects homelessness ie addiction, prisoner leavers, care leavers, young homeless !

Care leavers are NOT discharged from the care system now until they reach 17, when they are then able to access benefits BUT the additional help they need between 16-18, and post 18 simply isn’t there due to funding and lack of the right support systems and staff. The govt did introduce a “staying put” scheme for those in foster care, which has been successful for a few

Nannan2

But the sale of the cheap housing was the only way these folk could get on property ladder- and if they would be staying there for years & years anyway no houses were likely to be freed up for others it makes sense that they get a good deal & buy their own home than pay rent for life! What councils should have done is REPLACE the bought houses but they did not.

At the time of the big sell off of council houses, the councils were not allowed (by Thatcher's govt) to build more.

She is a thoroughly evil waste of flesh

My son who is 29 and Autistic and has severe OCD is technically homeless after his care home closed down in February 2022. We agreed to have him home “temporarily “ rather than letting them force him to live miles away from us, which would probably have resulted in his being sectioned. My husband is 76 and in poor health, I’m 66 and registered disabled because of spinal problems. It’s not ideal, he wants his own space and bit of independence again. The only way he’ll get somewhere to live now is for us to officially evict him, then we are back to square one of him being put anywhere they want. Certainly not his lifestyle choice.

MayBee70

JaneJudge

I want to post what I want to post without minimising homelessness as I think rough sleeping and being homeless or being in inadequate temporary housing is a massive issue BUT I think there is a percentage or proportion of people who live in their cars/vans and wash at service stations etc and it is a choice so they can make money/work cash in hand and then move back to their own countries with their money (I know a few people like this through my own work and previous work, they are/were all men) that's the only people I know who do it as a choice and I don't think it is ideal

Oh, so it is down to foreigners again …Of course…

Some of it, yes.
According to CHAIN data, 64% of rough sleepers in London are foreign. Easily checked.

Dillonsgranma

Cfaz49

I have a son who is one step away from the streets. At the moment he is sofa surfing. He has just had a serious back operation and is awaiting a gastric op for complicated diverticulitis and other problems. His doctor and advisor at the benefit’s office are trying to get him some accommodation. He was a gardener by trade. Not an addict and pretty much teetotal. But…. Male, single and sick… not a chance of any sort of help from anyone in the housing department. It’s a very short step for all of us from a home to the streets.

If he is your son then why can’t he stay with you? I really can’t understand

Perhaps Cfaz49 lives in a one bedroom property and the living area is too small to accommodate a lodger for more than the occasional night on the sofa - assuming if there is a sofa. Or it could be rented property where taking him in would breach her tenancy. Or it could affect her benefits. Or she might live in a different country.
I'm sure there are other possibilities too

More nonsense from the overpaid and over privileged members of this government.

In 2016, myself and 8 friends from a few different churches started to take food, bedding, clothes and other items down to the homeless in the city centre around 20 miles from where we live. We did this up until covid hit and we weren’t allowed.
We would have liked to have resumed after lockdown but by then our clapped out old minibus had failed the mot and we couldn’t afford to pay for all that needed to be done.

During our time doing this we got to know the regulars and they told us their stories and despite what that heartless person I shall call Cruella is saying, it is definitely not a lifestyle choice!

One man was living with his girlfriend in her flat and went home early one day and caught her in bed with his brother… 3 guesses who was asked to leave???

Another young lad lived with his mother and his name wasn’t on the tenancy so when she died he couldn’t stay there and because he was single and had no dependents the council didn’t want to know.

One young girl couldn’t get on with her stepfather constantly pestering her for sex. Her mother didn’t believe her and threw her out.

Another man from Romania had paid someone a large sum of money on the promise of a job here in the UK but when he arrived there was no job and he was left with no money to get back home.

There are lots of other instances we heard of where through no fault of their own people were left homeless.

So no Suella it is most certainly NOT a lifestyle choice, and why would it be. Who would choose to give up home comforts and live on the streets where you don’t know if you’re going to get through the night without being spat at or pissed on or even physically attacked,or raped by some callous unfeeling low life who think they are better than you or even worse, for the fun of it!!!
This woman has absolutely no idea what she’s talking about up there in her ivory castle where the reality of most people’s lives have no significance or interest to her whatsoever.

Suella Braverman hang your head in shame!!! 😡

Nannan2

What the GOVT should have done is ringfence the money made from sale of social housing and built more

Well I know this much: until Margaret Thatcher there were no homeless people on the streets of the city where I live.

There were a handful at most of “old style tramps/vagrants/ gentlemen of the road. There might have been one woman.

They were well known “characters”.
They did not beg.

The very notion of rough sleeping was something confined to London, and only heard of in songs such as *Streets Of London.
So summat went wrong 😼

I am deeply ashamed to say that this horrible woman represents my constituency and I would do ANYTHING to he represented by almost anyone else but alas the local conservative association, almost all older than me, chose her over Flick Drummond in the recent boundary change new candidate update. Short of something illegal how does one get rid of a dreadful
MP in a place where a donkey in a blue rosette would have a huge majority ?

So is being a racist bitch with not a hint of compassion or understanding for other humans in that case Which is the choice Suella made

Suella Braverman is disgusting. She has no compassion whatsoever and denigrates complex health and social problems to a stereotypes and soundbites to boost her profile.

This issue is close to home for me because my brother died on the streets as homeless under a previous Conservative government because of a Mental health crisis that remained untreated (despite over a year waiting for help). My brother was 44 when he died and all the things that would dispel Suella's nasty soundbites - privately educated, a taxation accountant, with strong family support ... but who suffered a MH crisis and whose life fell apart.

He died in the middle of Mayfair on a park bench. Sadly killed by some well meaning person who gave the homeless man a bottle of expensive whiskey - a corporate gift - inadvertently causing his death from acute alcohol poisoning.

These days he would have been classed as vulnerable. He was almost certainly autistic (but high functioning autism was not recognised in those days), had severe ADHD - plus the mh crisis and no care because of cutbacks ...

The biggest irony is that he was a lifelong Tory, a party member ....

Well I happen to think that certain of the homeless, for a multitude of reasons, choose to be so.
Have you read her entire comment on this subject?

Precisely what I have said - but people take away from her comments what they want to.

She ain’t nothing new. Suella Doberman is just the 2023 version of Edwina Curry, whowas always passing uninformed, prejudicial comments about things of which she knew nowt.

I have loathed Curry(the woman and not the cuisine) ever since as health minister she voiced in a national newspaper that the parents of a little girl were to blame after she died in the dentists chair under gas anaesthetic. Vile person.👹

silvercollie

Well I happen to think that certain of the homeless, for a multitude of reasons, choose to be so.
Have you read her entire comment on this subject?

This is what she does to get the ultimate amount of publicity for herself. Throws in something that she knows will be a talking point. And, as I’ve already pointed out has put it into people’s minds that it isn’t the governments fault that there are more homeless people than ever (nothing to do with starving social care of funding) and she’s combined it with the fact that it’s foreigners that are part of the problem. Baroness Warsey is appalled by her. The only reason she still has her job is that Sunak needed her support to become PM so he owes her one ( just remind me how many times she’s previously been sacked: is it twice?). Even if something isn’t true you only have to sow the seed in peoples minds and it never goes away, the prime example is Keir Starmer and Jimmy Saville. Which was used in parliament by Johnson, something that disgusted even his own party ( or, at least, the remaining decent Tory MP’s). I suggest that everyone who does think it’s a lifestyle choice gets themselves a cardboard box and a sleeping bag and sleeps on the streets for a few nights.

Oldbat1

Thatcher selling council houses has a lot to answer for.

This. It gained her votes and saved Councils paying upkeep at the same time gaining them money. A short term solution
as the promised rebuilding didn’t take place.

silvercollie and GSM

I think that I am not the only one to respond to you - "yes we have" and "no we haven't"

Have we asked those who allegedly choose to live on the streets why the do so? What are the reasons? Have they rejected
rejected help? This "life style choice" sounds suspicious.

How many of these people are illegal immigrants or are they still relishing our British hospitality in clean sheets, central heating, constant hot water and how many meals?
If we weren’t taking superb care of these people we may have been to help these homeless people you’re speaking about.