What is antisemitism?

No, many Jews themselves are critical of Israel’s draconian policies.

I agree. Did you hear Gerald Hoffman’s brave speech in the Commons?

So why are those speaking out against this latest outrage being called antisemitic? Because they are being thus labelled.

You can’t equate a government with the largest religion in any country.

Anti semitism is hatred of Jews. It’s a form of racism. It’s been going on for many, many years, long before the state of Israel even existed.

That's true maddyone but criticising the Israeli government is not antisemitic.

It is like hating all Scots, wherever they are, because you object to actions taken by the Scottissh government.

Concentrate of criticising the government and leave the diaspora alone.

It's pretty self evident, blatant attacks on the Jewish community whether physical or in the form of daubed hate messages, or placards bearing "Hitler was right" or "Rid the world of Jews" Lets not blur the lines by stating, as we know, many Jewish people support the Palestinian case, or pretend that actual hate crimes against them are a figment of paranoia, they are out there and they are increasing across Europe.

So true TerriBull

I wonder if blurring the lines is perhaps the point of the thread.

Police have reported that there have been thousands of antisemitic events in Britain since 7/10. We have not been told what form these incidents have taken, but we know that Jewish people are afraid to wear any traditional Jewish symbols, their children are afraid to wear their school uniforms which may identify them as Jewish, hate placards are openly carried at pro Palestinian demonstrations, pictures of the Israeli hostages have been ripped down, even by the police. Shame on Britain for this behaviour!

Police knew all this when they chose to allow the march on Saturday and Sunday

Are we so afraid of appearing antisemitic that it prevents us from standing up for peace and justice?
I hope not. There are extremists out there who are only too willing to whip up fear and aggression.
Taking sides in any conflict is not going to end in true justice.

Anniebach

Police knew all this when they chose to allow the march on Saturday and Sunday

What are you on about? It is now clear that the police knew the anti-war protesters’ march would pass off peacefully. Which it did bar a few bad apples.

Contrast that with the thugs who attacked the police.

I am not ‘on about’ anything, just posting my opinion as you should do without making it personal.

Anniebach

Police knew all this when they chose to allow the march on Saturday and Sunday

They chose to allow the march because it was not an anti-Jewish march.

Whatever your opinion of the behaviour of individuals who were part of the march it doesn't invalidate the fact that it was a march for peace, not an anti Jewish one.

Quokka Those speaking against the actions of the israeli government are not being condemned as anti-semitic. Those who extend their opposition to the government to embrace all Jews are.

Too often this extension sn't done in an outright and open manner where those doing it can be corrected and reprimanded, it is done by innuendo, hints, insinuations,
an allusive or oblique remark, imputations and allusion and is very difficult to counter.

TerriBull

It's pretty self evident, blatant attacks on the Jewish community whether physical or in the form of daubed hate messages, or placards bearing "Hitler was right" or "Rid the world of Jews" Lets not blur the lines by stating, as we know, many Jewish people support the Palestinian case, or pretend that actual hate crimes against them are a figment of paranoia, they are out there and they are increasing across Europe.

This is why borders are going up again in Europe.

home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/schengen-area/temporary-reintroduction-border-control_en

MerylStreep

TerriBull

It's pretty self evident, blatant attacks on the Jewish community whether physical or in the form of daubed hate messages, or placards bearing "Hitler was right" or "Rid the world of Jews" Lets not blur the lines by stating, as we know, many Jewish people support the Palestinian case, or pretend that actual hate crimes against them are a figment of paranoia, they are out there and they are increasing across Europe.

This is why borders are going up again in Europe.

home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/schengen-area/temporary-reintroduction-border-control_en

Thank you for that MerylStreep I knew about Denmark but not the others.

MerylStreep

TerriBull

It's pretty self evident, blatant attacks on the Jewish community whether physical or in the form of daubed hate messages, or placards bearing "Hitler was right" or "Rid the world of Jews" Lets not blur the lines by stating, as we know, many Jewish people support the Palestinian case, or pretend that actual hate crimes against them are a figment of paranoia, they are out there and they are increasing across Europe.

This is why borders are going up again in Europe.

home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/schengen-area/temporary-reintroduction-border-control_en

Interesting, MerylStreep

How come this has been kept so quiet?

Antisemitism is doing things like making someone's work life a misery because they have asked for permission (and been given it) to leave early on Fridays so as to get home before nightfall, which is when the Sabbath starts. My daughter-in-law has this arrangement with her line boss. In return she worked either later or earlier than everyone else, and often also on a Sunday as that was not for her a day of rest. This worked well. She was at work far longer than anyone else, and was very conscientious about quality as well. Her colleagues were fine with it.

Then her boss left and her successor repeatedly criticised her work, snipe about how unfair the arrangement was, and even told her "You ought to put your work above your religion". It got so bad that she left and found a better position somewhere else with the excellent reference she received from people higher up the hierarchy. She could probably have claimed infair dismissal, but just wanted to get away.

What has happened in the last few weeks has completely shaken my view of society, in particular the way antisemitism has been minimised and excused. I am not sure I will ever view people in the same way again.

I agree, Galaxy

I agree Galaxy

Am I right in thinking antisemitism is racism towards Jews being given a specific name or is it more than racism?