The Supreme Court has ruled the Rwanda deportations are illegal

JenniferEccles is right, they have come through safe countries.

I think sharing the positive situations at the detention centre you have experience of would be a good thing sharon 103?

It’s not subject to the official secrets act is it?

But, but, but -

everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that if this government had been on top of the issue, - and processed the application in an efficient and professional manner - and remember it only increased so much as a result of Brexit - then the whole ridiculous issue with accommodation apart from a relatively low level of applicants waiting for processing, this conversation should never be taking place.

It is this governments utter incompetence that has cost so much.

I expect the centres differ growstuff. Life didn’t look bad on the barge for instance, apart from legionnaires! My son lives very close to Wethersfield. I think work there is ongoing as the air base had been abandoned with the intention of redevelopment and they don’t yet know if the council’s challenge will succeed (which I hope it does - the proposal has killed the local property market).

Germanshepherdsmum

She has said enough to give us a flavour of things without details which would implicate her relative.

But how on earth is anybody to know how accurate they are?

I live near Wethersfield and the kind of picture of detention centres does not coincide with what people who have had access to the centre are saying.

PS. My daughter works for the National Crime Agency, but I'm not going to dangle any tasty titbits of gossip on GN!

She has said enough to give us a flavour of things without details which would implicate her relative.

Plus accommodation on a barge moored in beautiful Dorset, free to come and go as they please with free transport laid on.
There are medical facilities on board, plus a gym, yet still some have the brass neck to complain.

The list goes on and on.

Of course this is all costing the poor tax payer, although less, we are told, than the 8 million pounds PER DAY it costs to house them in hotels.

sharon103

growstuff

sharon103

JenniferEccles

Sorry but no they are not desperate, not in the way you mean LauraNorderr

Desperate to get here yes, as we are a soft touch, but as we all know, before they arrive here they have travelled through several perfectly safe European countries.

I agree with all of your posts JenniferEccles.
A very close relative works in a detention centre.
Some on here would have a different opinion if they knew what I know. Obviously I can't say.
They have a better going on than we do. No wait to see a doctor, hospital or dentist.
No wonder people get angry.

Obviously you can't say!

Do you work for MI6?

Cut the sarcasm. Of course I can't say on an open forum

So why did you even say you knew, if you can't say?

Rwanda must be laughing all the way to their Banks! We have paid them MILLIONS AND MILLIONS.

What did I hear at lunchtime Italy are doing a deal with Albania to take loads of their unwanted migrants?

sharon103

foxie48

sharon103 I don't know what sort of life you or your friend have but if you think life in a detention centre is "better" then I feel extremely sorry for you both. People held in detention centres are often locked up for 13 hours a day(if not longer), have no personal freedom, the food is generally dreadful and the conditions are pretty dreadful. There will be a doctor available but he is probably kept busy dealing with those who self harm or develop mental health problems. If you live in conditions worse than this then I am truly sad for you.

No no no. Not this particular one. I can't say of others.
Nobody is locked up. Excellent meals to choose from. In fact this person has her dinner there from the same canteen.
A gym, library, a choice of dvd's to watch etc. Activities. Special events at Christmas and other celebrations. Disco's, raffles. A shop to buy things from. snacks, toiletries.
I don't know where you have your information from but you are so so wrong to judge all detention centres as you quote.
The public don't get to hear all the good stuff.

It's not like that in Wethersfield - unless the leader of the local parish council was lying after his visit. His wife has called it a "stalag".

PS. They're not bleeding heart lefties either.

growstuff

sharon103

JenniferEccles

Sorry but no they are not desperate, not in the way you mean LauraNorderr

Desperate to get here yes, as we are a soft touch, but as we all know, before they arrive here they have travelled through several perfectly safe European countries.

I agree with all of your posts JenniferEccles.
A very close relative works in a detention centre.
Some on here would have a different opinion if they knew what I know. Obviously I can't say.
They have a better going on than we do. No wait to see a doctor, hospital or dentist.
No wonder people get angry.

Obviously you can't say!

Do you work for MI6?

Cut the sarcasm. Of course I can't say on an open forum

JenniferEccles

Sorry but no they are not desperate, not in the way you mean LauraNorderr

Desperate to get here yes, as we are a soft touch, but as we all know, before they arrive here they have travelled through several perfectly safe European countries.

👏👏

foxie48

sharon103 I don't know what sort of life you or your friend have but if you think life in a detention centre is "better" then I feel extremely sorry for you both. People held in detention centres are often locked up for 13 hours a day(if not longer), have no personal freedom, the food is generally dreadful and the conditions are pretty dreadful. There will be a doctor available but he is probably kept busy dealing with those who self harm or develop mental health problems. If you live in conditions worse than this then I am truly sad for you.

No no no. Not this particular one. I can't say of others.
Nobody is locked up. Excellent meals to choose from. In fact this person has her dinner there from the same canteen.
A gym, library, a choice of dvd's to watch etc. Activities. Special events at Christmas and other celebrations. Disco's, raffles. A shop to buy things from. snacks, toiletries.
I don't know where you have your information from but you are so so wrong to judge all detention centres as you quote.
The public don't get to hear all the good stuff.

Germanshepherdsmum

Of course they weren’t! Only Rwanda was on the table.

Yes - I think our wires are crossed!

sharon103 I don't know what sort of life you or your friend have but if you think life in a detention centre is "better" then I feel extremely sorry for you both. People held in detention centres are often locked up for 13 hours a day(if not longer), have no personal freedom, the food is generally dreadful and the conditions are pretty dreadful. There will be a doctor available but he is probably kept busy dealing with those who self harm or develop mental health problems. If you live in conditions worse than this then I am truly sad for you.

Germanshepherdsmum

The only reason the plan didn’t find favour with the SC was the choice of Rwanda, MayBee, so there is no reason why an acceptable safe third country should not be sought. There is no question of finding a way around the law or changing the law. You don’t seem to have understood the SC judgement. I don’t know what exactly you think is wrong with the legal system.

Well, didn’t Boris Johnson plan to change it? And, if the government doesn’t agree with the ruling of the Supreme Court doesn’t that mean that they think there is something wrong with it?

Any other country that is likely to be deemed fit to accept refugees is already doing so. Most of them take far more than Britain. Refugees desperate to come here usually want to come because they speak the language or have family here. Why anyone would want to pass through all the EU countries to end up here in this mean spirited, broken country is beyond me but plenty do. They too are fed a nostalgic view of Britain as a place if sanctuary , where laws are upheld and the government acts with integrity and humanity. Oh those were the days.

It’s obvious why the information shouldn’t be passed on in an open forum.

I would add ‘and heating and three good meals a day’. Things that many posters here can’t afford.

sharon103

JenniferEccles

Sorry but no they are not desperate, not in the way you mean LauraNorderr

Desperate to get here yes, as we are a soft touch, but as we all know, before they arrive here they have travelled through several perfectly safe European countries.

I agree with all of your posts JenniferEccles.
A very close relative works in a detention centre.
Some on here would have a different opinion if they knew what I know. Obviously I can't say.
They have a better going on than we do. No wait to see a doctor, hospital or dentist.
No wonder people get angry.

Obviously you can't say!

Do you work for MI6?

Of course they weren’t! Only Rwanda was on the table.

GSM of course! Because they were not asked to judge anything other than Rwanda.

The only reason the plan didn’t find favour with the SC was the choice of Rwanda, MayBee, so there is no reason why an acceptable safe third country should not be sought. There is no question of finding a way around the law or changing the law. You don’t seem to have understood the SC judgement. I don’t know what exactly you think is wrong with the legal system.

I’m totally ashamed at the way this country and America have treated Afghanistan, especially the Afghan people that helped us.

JenniferEccles

Sorry but no they are not desperate, not in the way you mean LauraNorderr

Desperate to get here yes, as we are a soft touch, but as we all know, before they arrive here they have travelled through several perfectly safe European countries.

I agree with all of your posts JenniferEccles.
A very close relative works in a detention centre.
Some on here would have a different opinion if they knew what I know. Obviously I can't say.
They have a better going on than we do. No wait to see a doctor, hospital or dentist.
No wonder people get angry.

It’s an international problem. I’m embarrassed that some believe the channel should keel the uk asylum seeker free. Many of the asylum seekers come from countries that were British colonies or protectorates. Or countries like Lybia and Afghanistan - made even more unstable by our intervention