Omid Scobie - Endgame.

I am another who just assumed meghan had Mexican, Italian, Spanish ancestry. When we were told other, I, like so many others, was delighted because it meant that the Royal family would now, quite fortuitiously reflect the make up of so many British families, and I suspect that was probably the reaction of the RF, they have always been very savvy at reflecting the changes in British society.

Both the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are the products of seriously dysfunctional families is it surprising that they themselves have continued this into adulthood? And, sadly, they have chosen to bring their own children up to be alienated form any wider family than their parents, so that they are missing the wider experience of grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins all from widely differing backgrounds, which enriches most people's lives and helps shape our ability to maintain happy and harmonious relationships, with wide variety of people we meet in life.

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I'm still struggling with the fact that Catherine, as a young modern woman, well-versed in wokery stuff, would have slipped up or made any faux pas here.

Why would she indeed? I'm pretty sure it's a horrible lie.

I wonder what stunt they’ll pull to coincide with Kate’s annual Carol concert?

Whatever the truth about the alleged comment, it’s regrettable that H&M chose to make it public in the way that they did, in a high-profile celebrity interview that will probably be replayed and discussed for years to come. H&M’s children will get the message that their skin colour was an issue in their family, and the seeds are sown for future problems, courtesy of their troubled parents.

M0nica

I am another who just assumed meghan had Mexican, Italian, Spanish ancestry. When we were told other, I, like so many others, was delighted because it meant that the Royal family would now, quite fortuitiously reflect the make up of so many British families, and I suspect that was probably the reaction of the RF, they have always been very savvy at reflecting the changes in British society.

Both the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are the products of seriously dysfunctional families is it surprising that they themselves have continued this into adulthood? And, sadly, they have chosen to bring their own children up to be alienated form any wider family than their parents, so that they are missing the wider experience of grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins all from widely differing backgrounds, which enriches most people's lives and helps shape our ability to maintain happy and harmonious relationships, with wide variety of people we meet in life.

Sibling rivalry is common in many families the eldest often does have all the advantages of being first in line, later children can rise above it and do their own thing, Harry chose not to. Even as “spare” he had the advantages most dream of and could have dedicated himself to something useful, I suppose Invictus is part of that, but how much he does he actually do apart from being patron.

I bet nobody on here had ever heard Catherine referred to as Katie Keene before Scobie’s book. I certainly hadn’t.

Apparently she’s a character in an American comic book called ‘Archie’ and is a favourite of Meghan’s. Well, there’s a surprise!!

merlotgran

I wonder what stunt they’ll pull to coincide with Kate’s annual Carol concert?

It's really rather sad that they have embarked on a new life in America but can't move on and are eaten up with jealousy and resentment, needing to spoil everyone else's lives in order to make themselves feel better.

I imagine William is absolutely furious about the possible slur on Catherine’s name.

I don’t believe for one minute that the royals are racist, and I even include the late Prince Philip in that.

Who actually disclosed the names of course, we can’t be sure. Scooby Doo, H and M or some malicious person in publishing, who knows?

Delila

Whatever the truth about the alleged comment, it’s regrettable that H&M chose to make it public in the way that they did, in a high-profile celebrity interview that will probably be replayed and discussed for years to come. H&M’s children will get the message that their skin colour was an issue in their family, and the seeds are sown for future problems, courtesy of their troubled parents.

… and that is the saddest part of all this.

The nasty, whining Sussexes and their repulsive mouthpiece, Scobie, deserve each other.

I just wonder what their children will make of all this when they’re adults. Will Harry and Meghan have succeeded in poisoning their minds about both sides of their families, or will they be justifiably aggrieved to have lost out in so many ways?

I absolutely agree that I like most people were not aware of, or cared about, Meghans background. If asked I would have thought Italian maybe,Spanish perhaps, but not in a negative way! No I have never heard of Katie Keen, never mind in the same breath as Catherine! She most certainly has never been called that in this country. Quite honestly this particularly vile, offensive slur against the RF has Meghans fingerprints all over it. As for Harry? Who knows what he really thinks, least of all him! Those poor children.

Isn't keen something positive?

Keen to set a good example
Keen to get involved and support
Keen to be discreet
A keen team player
A keen sportswoman
Keen to not upset other family members

Omid Scabie and M, maybe H too wanted them to be named and hopefully shamed or their names would never have appeared in this odious book.

Well it looks as it it's backfired spectacularly as I've yet to see anyone say anything other than talking about Archie's colouring prior to his birth, is a perfectly natural thing to do.

It's very sad to see children being used as weapons when there's estrangement in the family, and poor little Archie's being used in the worse way possible.

Callistemon21

merlotgran
I wonder what stunt they’ll pull to coincide with Kate’s annual Carol concert?

It's really rather sad that they have embarked on a new life in America but can't move on and are eaten up with jealousy and resentment, needing to spoil everyone else's lives in order to make themselves feel better.
Yes, and Smileless2012 also makes good points above.
What a poisonous pair, using their children to peddle hatred.

Obviously I haven’t read all of the scuttlebutt in the media about this debacle. However three things have stuck me. The translators are adamant on two points, firstly that the names were in the script and secondly that there was no comment in it saying that Scobie had decided not to name the two individuals. Surely if the names had been added in error, then this decision would be there just as it was in other editions. The omission is surely an indication that either the names were supposed to be there, or someone has inadvertently sent the translators the edition that had not been checked by lawyers. When this was pointed out in an Interview, Scobie did not reply.

Finally, he said that he had seen the letter. I find it very difficult to believe that Charles left a piece of correspondence of this magnitude lying around, or that in this unlikely event. anyone seeing it could take a copy and pass it in to Scobie risking discovery and the furore that would result.

I would reiterate that I have only read/seen a small sample of what has been released, but these are my conclusions.

Apparently Prince Harry himself, before he was married, jokingly wondered whether his Ginger genes would override Meghans darker genes in the children they might have.
Probably the same conversation that is now being banded around as being racist!

Apparently Katie Keen is a character in a US magazine called Archie that Meghan loved when she was a youngster.most Americans haven’t heard of it either. I leave you to draw your own conclusions

Sorry Merlotgran I missed your post.

What I don't understand is H said he would never make the conversation public and M said it would be damaging to those responsible if their names were ever known. So why would Scobie who is clearly close enough to her if not him, to have got the 'information' to write 'Finding Freedom', risk it all by mentioning the names in any form, if she hadn't wanted him too.

I suspect that 'Katie Keen' was Megan's private nickname for the Princess of Wales, No wonder Omid Scobie, thought it was a commonly used nickname for her. What other sources did he have?

I suspect you are right M0nica

Prince Harry is the one who was racist in the past, what with calling an army colleague his "little P* friend", and dressing up as a Nazi.

Smileless2012

What I don't understand is H said he would never make the conversation public and M said it would be damaging to those responsible if their names were ever known. So why would Scobie who is clearly close enough to her if not him, to have got the 'information' to write 'Finding Freedom', risk it all by mentioning the names in any form, if she hadn't wanted him too.

Especially knowing how litigious the Sussexes are …