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Another go at the Rwanda bill

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Dec-23 07:45:24

Letters from The Times, just about sums up this shambles.

No amount of “legislation” will make something it isn’t!

Meanwhile we are sending another £150million to Rwanda for nothing. They saw this government coming didn’t they?

ronib Fri 08-Dec-23 11:37:28

There’s also a separate right to remain category plus the option of applying for full British citizenship. I don’t know if the income thresholds have been changed for these groups.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Dec-23 11:54:47

growstuff

I really don't have the energy to plough through the latest scheme. However, could somebody please explain something? Am I right in thinking that if somebody fails to be granted asylum in Rwanda, he/she will be returned to the UK? My understanding that's how the government hopes to get round the possibility that failed asylum seekers could be returned to their country of origin or sent to some random third country, which is the main reason the second scheme failed.

Yes that is what I understand to be the case. So bizarrely successful applicants will remain in Rwanda and failed applicants will returned to the U.K.! That is to get around the court judgement of the consideration that Rwanda was shipping “failed” applicants to other war torn countries etc and so failing the “safe” test. The fact that they have killed or tortured the odd one or two refugees doesn’t seem to matter.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Dec-23 12:59:04

Quote from Gavin Esler

“Imagine future historians trying to explain why the British Conservative Party tore itself apart trying to send a handful of people to a country in Africa - and failing repeatedly. Those who the gods wish to destroy, first they make mad”

I see that the polls are getting unbelievable regarding a Labour majority - I simply don’t believe it.

Parsley3 Fri 08-Dec-23 13:34:11

Well, the Rwandan economy is getting a nice little boost from this farcical scheme.

Greta Fri 08-Dec-23 14:47:06

I never thought a government of ours could sink so low. Are they so desperate to hold on to power that they are willing to sell their souls to the devil?

MaizieD Fri 08-Dec-23 16:26:03

On Question Time last night one of the panellists was George Monbiot. He tore the Rwanda policy to shreds and got a big round of applause.

When the audience was asked who agreed with the government's Rwanda policy apparently only 2 people put their hands up.

This was in a mainly tory voting area.

I don't think that the policy is as popular as some posters think it is.