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The Price Of Freedom. But Is There A Limit?

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Anniel Mon 11-Dec-23 20:22:28

Today I read in the Spectator that the Mayor Of London has told the Central Govt. that there is a £240 million shortfall in the Metropolitan Police budget.due to the regular marches supporting Palestine. The Mayor has funds and he needs to understand that his budget and that of thrvMetropolitan Police should cover costs of such Marches. As the weeks go on my question is whether there should be any financial limit on the cost? One can demonstrate without taking over main thoroughfares of our capital as shown by the NHS and Rail Unions. So I ask is there any limit on the costs of these marches? Or should we raise income tax to cover the costs?

JaneJudge Mon 11-Dec-23 20:42:56

I thought the met had its own budget outside of other forces which are run by central government and local authorities money?

JaneJudge Mon 11-Dec-23 20:44:30

Or they may all run the same way. I’m not actually sure but you could argue that forces that have to deal with more matches or other issues also need more money from central government

Anniel Tue 12-Dec-23 15:59:08

I think the Counties outside London use their own funds and Sadiq Khan also has ample resources for London. The quandary is about how much money can be spent in such a downturn in the economy. We do believe in freedom to protest but how can we fund these marches every week? If we oppose them we will be seen as “far right” by those who I regard as being left of the Labour Party and being a dictatorship. So what do others think and where should the required funds come from?

paddyann54 Tue 12-Dec-23 16:07:57

Oh dear Anniel you wont get closer to a dictatorship than how the Tories are "governing" now scrapping laws .using public funds for themselves and their mates,filling the HofL with tory "lords" .Open your eyes .....I believe theres yet ANOTHER change of PM imminent...is this what you see as a democracy?

MaizieD Tue 12-Dec-23 16:12:13

I would just console yourself, Anniel, with the fact that all the extra money spent on policing protests is being spent into the economy, contributing to business profits and getting back to the government by way of taxation.

Galaxy Tue 12-Dec-23 16:16:16

I loathe some of the behaviour on the protests. However I support the right to protest and that has to extend to those I may not agree with. My concerns about the Met police are wide ranging.

Elegran Tue 12-Dec-23 17:13:52

The whole of the quotation in the title is "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" and the many demonstrations that have been mounted recently have been by groups claiming their right to exercise "eternal vigilance" about events and attitudes that they see as threats to freedoms of one kind or another. Not allowing the marches would be against the policy of allowing peaceful demonstrations and free speech.

There may be a case, though, for keeping main thoroughfares open to prevent the marches from completely paralysing the lives of the rest of the community - that does tend to lose them public sympathy anyway.

On the other hand - would that inspire the demonstrators to break the rules and take the banned routes, hoping to prove the validity of their protest by the amount of disruption they can cause?