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Covid Fines

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Callistemon21 Wed 13-Dec-23 19:22:21

Should there be an amnesty, bearing in mind that some people have been fined large sums of money and are now in despair, one at least losing his home as a result? This in comparison with the much smaller amounts imposed on MPs and their staff who blatantly broke the rules?

www.itv.com/news/2023-12-13/calls-for-covid-fine-amnesty-as-thousands-remain-unpaid

Read Toriano's story and compare this with the £50 fine that Boris Johnson received for attending one 🤔 party.
Is this fair?

MaizieD Wed 20-Dec-23 17:05:43

Callistemon21

MaizieD

winterwhite

Agree with OP re total amnesty now.
Prob easier anyway than trying to reclaim all the £50s - and what fund would the money go into? The public have been more sinned against than sinning and have borne enough.

The whole point of this thread is that 'ordinary' people were fined £1,000s (not £50) while the ministers and civil servants involved with the numerous Whitehall/Westminster parties were fined only £50 (or nothing at all)

Yes, that was the point 🙂

Whitehall/Westminster parties were fined only £50 (or nothing at all) for repeat offences and even laughing at the gullible public about it, supposedly behind our backs!

Sorry if I 've misunderstood, but silverlinings seemed to be thinking, by saying that it would be hard to reclaim the £50s, that that was all that 'ordinary' folks were paying.

Have I got myself in a muddle? 🤔

maddyone Wed 20-Dec-23 17:29:55

Only just seen this thread so only able to comment now.
The fines should be refunded, bar £50.
It’s ridiculous that fines are still being handed out now.
I want to believe our justice system treats everyone alike under the law but………

Callistemon21 Wed 20-Dec-23 21:05:51

MaizieD

Callistemon21

MaizieD

winterwhite

Agree with OP re total amnesty now.
Prob easier anyway than trying to reclaim all the £50s - and what fund would the money go into? The public have been more sinned against than sinning and have borne enough.

The whole point of this thread is that 'ordinary' people were fined £1,000s (not £50) while the ministers and civil servants involved with the numerous Whitehall/Westminster parties were fined only £50 (or nothing at all)

Yes, that was the point 🙂

Whitehall/Westminster parties were fined only £50 (or nothing at all) for repeat offences and even laughing at the gullible public about it, supposedly behind our backs!

Sorry if I 've misunderstood, but silverlinings seemed to be thinking, by saying that it would be hard to reclaim the £50s, that that was all that 'ordinary' folks were paying.

Have I got myself in a muddle? 🤔

No, you interpreted what I said correctly!

Poor people fined thousands of £, rich politicians, those who made the rules and who were repeat offenders charged £50 or let off.

Or am I getting myself in a muddle now?

winterwhite Wed 20-Dec-23 21:19:02

I think I created the muddle by telescoping what I was trying to say. I meant that I supported the case for total amnesty rather than the case, that many were advancing, of reducing all fines to £50.
It was clear that the OP was stressing the unfairness and I quite agree.

MaizieD Wed 20-Dec-23 22:35:49

I was in such a muddle I even got your name wrong, winterwhite 😳

I do apologise.

Grantanow Thu 21-Dec-23 12:45:59

MayBee70

Just because the people in power broke the law doesn’t make it right that other people did, too. They knew how much the fines were and, at the time no one knew that the majority of people would adhere to the rules so there needed to be a deterrent.

I didn't argue that lawbreaking by the Buffoon and his friends made it right. The point is that fines for offences should be on a tariff. Some magistrates clearly went bananas in fining people £1,000s when the Buffoon in No. 10 paid £50 and many others in high places who held or attended parties paid nothing. It stinks.

Grantanow Fri 12-Jan-24 10:55:30

It's interesting to see the political stampede to right the terrible wrongs done to the subpostmasters while little is done to deal with the excessive Covid fines or the tainted blood scandal or several other compensation issues. Could it be that such cases serve no political partisan value and thus attract little interest from MPs?